IFS Talks

This is an episode with Richard Schwartz,  author and founder of this amazing and unique Psychotherapy Model. Internal Family Systems is for many a Metamodel, a model of the Mind, a Map and a Path to our lives, a new Paradigm, a Social Mouvement. Please welcome Dick Schwartz.

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Robert Falconer has an undergraduate degree in cultural anthropology, with a focus on the history of religions.In the early 1980s he pursued his masters degree in psychology while balancing a career in construction and real estate investment.When Robert started as a therapist, he focused on the work of Milton Erickson and hypnotherapy. He then moved into working with Jack and Helen Watkins; who developed ego state therapy. In his career as a therapist, Robert spent considerable time at the Esalen Institute and decades involved in gestalt therapy. Robert has been familiar with IFS therapy for 20 years, but completely devoted himself to the model for the last 10 years.

Robert was one of the first men to speak publicly about being sexually abused as a child, and for many years he worked primarily with men with a similar trauma history. Now he works with people learning IFS. Most recently Robert co-authored with Dick Schwartz a book entitled “Many Minds, One Self:evidence for a radical shift in paradigm“

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Our guest for this episode is a young woman in her thirties, sharing her life as well as a research job with a kind and loving partner, with whom she feels connected and safe.However, eighteen months ago, this young woman started seeing a therapist. Back then, Mary was struggling with extreme perfectionist and demanding parts, that could exaust her, trigger anxious and depressed parts, that very often exiled Mary in her bedroom, for days.Today we ask Mary to share her journey in internal family systems therapy.

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Kate Lingren is a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker in private practice with over 30 years of experience. She is a Certified IFS therapist and on the faculty of Intimacy From the Inside Out (using IFS in couples work) as a Lead Trainer.

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Nancy Sowell is an IFS Senior Trainer, consultant, and therapist who teaches frequently in Europe and the US. She is a teaching associate at Harvard Medical School where she has been a clinical supervisor for over 20 years. She has pursued training from many therapeutic schools of thought and in various therapeutic techniques, such as IFS, hypnosis, biofeedback, EMDR and mindfulness meditation. She integrates mindful awareness of the body, emotions, thoughts, and deeply held beliefs, as they influence our mood, vitality, behavior, relationships and health. Nancy is the co-creator of the IFS program and research study with rheumatoid arthritis patients that enabled IFS to be certified as an evidence-based program and practice.

In this Talk, Nancy's chapter The Internal Family System and Adult Health: Changing the Course of Chronic Illness, on Internal Family Systems Therapy: New Dimensionsis under analysis.

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Mariel Pastor is a Lead Trainer who began her IFS journey back in 1998. She trains across the United States and internationally and is widely known for her clarity, warmth, and humor.Mariel recently wrote and edited the new Level 1 training manual, and has created advanced workshops designed around the Unburdened Internal System mandala. Prior to becoming a psychotherapist she worked in the entertainment industry in Hollywood. Her love of working with artists has inspired her most recent project called Character Mapping - a psychological toolbox for actors, writers, and directors to build deeper characters and to find them selves. In her private practice she works primarily with individual adults and provides consultation for other therapists.

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In this episode Derek Scott describes how Self-leadership is a Spiritual Practice. The conversation includes a consideration of how all major world religions have at their core the desire for Peace; the calm of Self; and how Love may be considered synonymous with the term God.

In discussing the Self quality of joy, he draws on sacred music from different traditions to exemplify their commonalities and articulates how Self seeks to connect with the “Self-energy”, the happiness of the parts.

He describes the “miraculous” nature of Self from a part’s perspective and in consideration of the differences between Spirituality and religion clarifies how Spiritual teachers were mystics with direct experiences of the transpersonal. Religions then emerged around these teachers as structures with prescribed behaviours on how to be more Spiritual.

Ironically these man-made “shoulding” managers bring shame into the system, reinforcing the exiles beliefs and often resulting in parts that need to “try harder to be ‘good’”. This unsatisfying state of affairs that has religion(s) determining that we are somehow unworthy may account for why many seekers are following paths using Ayahuasca, MDMA, Ketamine, Psilocybin and other medicines in order to connect with their own direct apprehension of Love or God or The All.

In asking, “What’s Right with Us?” Derek describes the evolution of the Western psychological view of the personality; from behaviourism through the cognitive revolution to Maslow’s Humanistic 3rd force psychology to our current Transpersonal 4th force understanding of the psychospiritual nature of being.

He suggests we may all be tender souls manifesting through the human experience. And posits that perhaps we were given our parts to learn how to love them. As we learn that there is more Peace inside; and therefore more love and Compassion becomes available both for those in the inside world, and our fellow human systems in the outside world.

He leaves us with the radical notion that if Self does not die, the more we can identify as Self-led, the more we can perhaps embrace our eternal nature.

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Derek Scott is a certified IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapist with an international online practice based near Toronto, Canada. He is the founder of IFSCA– an organization dedicated to bringing awareness of the IFS model to counsellors and therapists in Canada and beyond.Through IFSCA he offers courses teaching the IFS model online and in person at his retreat centre, Namaskar.Derek has worked in the field of counselling/therapy for over 35 years, including 15 working exclusively as an IFS therapist and for 18 years as an AIDS counsellor specializing in multiple losses. He is a popular guest lecturer in the department of Thanatology at the University of Western Ontario and has presented at numerous national and international conferences.Derek also has a YouTube channel dedicated to IFS, featuring over 40 free videos;It has 5,000 subscribers and has had 400,000 views.Derek can be reached at www.IFSCA.ca

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Lawrence Rosenberg is a psychologist in Cambridge, Massachusetts with a therapy and consultation practice for individuals and couples. Lawrence is a supervisor at Cambridge Health Alliance and an Instructor in Psychology at Harvard Medical School.He received his Ph.D. in clinical psychology in 1989 from Yale University, where being introduced to psychodynamic and cognitive-behavioral models established his outlook as an integrative therapist.

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Frank Anderson began his journey by earning his bachelor’s degree in chemistry from the University of Illinois in 1985, followed by his M.D. from Rush University Medical School in 1989. He completed his residency in psychiatry at Harver Medical School.After graduation, he stayed on as a clinical instructor at Harvard working as a staff psychiatrist at the Trauma Center at the Justice Resource Institute, under the direction of Bessel van der Kolk.In 1994, Frank launched his private practice, centered on the treatment of trauma,including single-incident trauma, complex trauma, dissociative identity disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Frank also specializes in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), autism spectrum disorders(ASD), lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBTQ) issues.Frank’s professional focus expanded in 2004 after he met his mentor and friend Richard Schwarz, Ph.D. From there, Frank learned to integrate IFS into his passion for psychopharmacology,neurobiology and trauma therapy. He teaches IFS, Trauma and Neuroscience,a five-day intensive training for therapists.Frank is the former chairman of the Foundation for Self Leadership, a nonprofit organization dedicated to advancing IFS via research, scholarships and outreach.Frank continues to provide consultation, individual therapy and couples therapy at his office in Concord, Mass. Additionally, he maintains an active career as a speaker, teacher, consultant, writer and researcher often conducting seminars, workshops and training programs. He also remains affiliated with the IFS Institute and Trauma Center at the Justice Resource Institute.

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