On this week's podcast Zo and G chat to midwife, mum, birth debrief facilitator and speaker on all thing birth advocacy and birth trauma, the fabulous Illy Morrison.

Illy chats to Zoe and Georgia about how she got involved in the conversation, from her own traumatic birth, how the system can change for the better, how important it is that people know that they can address their birth trauma, the systemic racism and bias in healthcare that we can help shift and calling out the bullsh*t.

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