In the Church Library

In the Church Library

By Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnisReligion & SpiritualityChristianityArtsBooksParentingKids & Family
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In the Church Library episodes

  • Q&A: Ask Us Anything! Part 2

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library as they answer your questions. In Part 2, they answer: 

    1:27 Q: How do you internally & externally handle criticism of your toddlers displaying developmentally appropriate but situationally inappropriate behaviors that children trained under authoritarianism typically don't do? 

    11:09 Q: What recommendations do you have for church children's ministry training?

    We mention: Center for Faith and Children, Godly Play & Catechesis of the Good Shepherd

    13:58 Q: What is your favorite part about being a mother? 

    17:24 Q: What parameters have you found to be the norm for how spanking occurs? Did the ancient Israelites spank their children for education?

    36:07 Q: Where did you go to school(s)?

    39:38 Q: What are some healthy Christian parenting books you enjoy? 

    Households of Faith, by: Emily Hunter McGowin; Connected Families, Flourishing Homes and Families

    46:47 Q: What (if any) resources you read including anything about disability? Esp developmental? 

    56:12 Q: How did you get into the pitfalls of Christian parenting? 

    1:00:32 Q: Did either of you experience any evangelical parenting techniques as children? 

    1:05:15 Q: And a clarification regarding nouthetic/biblical counseling and why we use the term

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 


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    1 hr 9 min
  • A Conversation with Dr. Camden Morgante about Purity Culture

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library for a conversation with Camden Morgante, author of the book Recovering from Purity Culture: Dismantle the Myths, Reject Shame-Based Sexuality, and Move Forward in Your Faith.

    Connect with Dr. Camden online: Instagram, Threads, Facebook, and her Substack Walking the Middle Path.

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr
  • Q&A: Ask Us Anything! Part 1

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library as they answer your questions. In Part 1, they answer: 

    2:13 Q: What resources do you recommend? 

    17:06 Q: How would you measure a "healthy" church, especially in re: parenting teaching coming from the pulpit? 

    34:32 Q: Given 1 Timothy 3:4, is it honorable for all parents to "require obedience"? 

    Note: For further discussion of these Bible passages, see Marissa's series on this: Part 1, Part 2, Summary

    53:41 Q: How does the marketing of Christian parenting resources work? 

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr 10 min
  • Babywise, Gary & Anne Marie Ezzo, and the Growing Kids God's Way parenting empire, Part 1

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library to discuss the Growing Kids God's Way parenting empire. In Part 1, we discuss how Gary and Anne Marie came to be popular Christian parenting experts, their book On Becoming Babywise: Giving Your Infant the Gift of Nighttime Sleep, and the controversy surrounding their methods. 

    For more reading on the Ezzos, see http://ezzo.info/

    "The Parent Trap," by: Jensen Davis takes an in-depth look at the Ezzos' approach

    YouTube link for an IG conversation with Marissa and Kelsey on Gentle Parenting

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr 22 min
  • Gentle Parenting, Attachment Parenting & L.R. Knost's book Jesus The Gentle Parent

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library to discuss gentle parenting, attachment parenting, and Jesus, the Gentle Parent: Gentle Christian Parenting, by: LR Knost.

    YouTube link for an IG conversation with Marissa and Kelsey on Gentle Parenting

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr 7 min
  • The Christian Family, by: Larry Christenson

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library to discuss a popular, best-selling Christian parenting book from the 1970s: The Christian Family, by: Larry Christenson. In this episode they discuss the socio-political climate of the 1970s, the way mainline denominations folded into broader evangelicalism, viewpoints on household authority structures, and corporal punishment as a perceived essential ingredient to maintaining order.

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!


    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr 24 min
  • A Conversation With Emily Hunter McGowin, author of Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library for a conversation with Emily Hunter McGowin, author of the book Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God.

    You can find more about Emily and her books here: https://www.emilymcgowin.com/

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    43 min
  • Shepherding A Child's Heart, by: Tedd Tripp

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library to discuss the popular Christian parenting book: Shepherding a Child's Heart, by: Tedd Tripp.

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!


    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    1 hr 31 min
  • What Kinds of Books Are On Our Bookshelves?

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library for a sampling of books that represent different elements of popular Christian teaching. 

    Episode One closed with the note that the next episode would cover Tedd Tripp's book Shepherding A Child's Heart, but that will be the topic for Episode Three.

    Note: In this episode, when Marissa is describing the history of the nouthetic movement she indicates that Jay Adams was studying to be a counselor and that is when he became disillusioned with pyschology. This needs further clarification: Adams at that time was shadowing a psychologist in order to head up a Christian counseling program at Westminster. So while he was learning about psychology, he was not in a formal program to become a psychologist or something of that nature.

    Books we discuss in this episode: 

    Books by James Dobson

    Books by John Rosemond

    How to Rear Children, by: Jack Hyles

    The Christian Family, by: Larry Christenson

    To Train Up a Child, by: Michael & Debi Pearl

    The Power of Motherhood, by: Nancy Campbell

    Raising Godly Tomatoes, by: L. Elizabeth Kreuger

    The Strong Family, by: Chuck Swindoll

    Hints on Child Training, by: Henry Clay Trumbull

    Jesus, the Gentle Parent, by: L R Knost

    The Hurting Parent, by: Margie Lewis

    On Becoming Babywise, by: Gary and Anne Marie Ezzo

    Don't Make Me Count to Three, by: Ginger (Plowman) Hubbard

    Boundaries With Kids, by: Cloud & Townsend

    You can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter,

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    54 min
  • Browsing Our Bookshelves

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    Join Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis In the Church Library for a conversation about some of the resources that they want to spotlight from their research. 

    Episode One drops 4/3/25, but until then, you can connect with Kelsey and Marissa on social media:

    Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook

    Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook

    And Pre-order The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families wherever books are sold! 

    Sign-up form for pre-order bonuses coming soon!

    PreorderThe Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families for 40% off now. 

    46 min

About In the Church Library

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Join Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks Burt for conversation around popular Christian resources found in church libraries. The first season focuses on parenting books Kelsey and Marissa…

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