Amplify with Jess Ekstrom

Is Cancel Culture Actually Working?


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Are you struggling to maintain relationships with people you love, even when you disagree on fundamental issues?

This week on Amplify, Jess sits down with her good friend, Brit Barron, a speaker, DEI consultant, and author of Do You Still Talk to Grandma? 

Brit's work offers a much-needed guide for navigating the increasingly polarized world we live in, helping us find common ground and connection even when perspectives diverge.

Brit and Jess discuss our divided society, examining why it feels harder than ever to see eye to eye. They challenge the tendency to categorize people into "good" or "bad" boxes and instead champion the power of nuance, where love and disagreement can coexist. 


We also explore:

  • The difficulty of separating institutions from individuals in our current polarized climate.
  • Why Brit's work focuses on the people already in our lives, not strangers.
  • The concept of "progressive amnesia" and its impact on our interactions with others.
  • The power of asking "Help me understand" in difficult conversations, especially in the workplace.
  • How to be a better ally without falling into the "hero" trap.
  • The "take the meat and leave the bones" metaphor for consuming information.
  • The crucial "both/and" philosophy: how to hold deep love and deep disappointment in the same relationship.

About Brit Barron:
Brit Barron is a speaker, DEI consultant, and author of the book Do You Still Talk to Grandma?, which offers a compassionate framework for navigating difficult conversations and maintaining relationships across differences. Her work encourages empathy, nuance, and genuine connection in an increasingly divided world.

Resources & Links:

  • Do You Still Talk to Grandma? by Brit Barron: https://www.amazon.com/You-Still-Talk-Grandma-Problematic/dp/0593594347/
  • Find Brit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barronbrit/
  • Find Brit on the web: https://britbarron.com/
  • Find Brit on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/britbarron/

Amplify with Jess is produced by Walk West and brought to you by Mic Drop Workshop.

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