October 17, 2024

Is Carbon 60 & ESS60 the Most Compelling Longevity Molecule Ever? w/ Chris Burres

1 hour 38 minutes

As discussed on this podcast for some time now, carbon 60, commonly known as C60, is part of The Mitochondrial Triad for its many mitochondrial-boosting properties; namely, its ability to mitigate oxidative stress. Today's guest, Chris Burres, is all too familiar with C60, as he is the co-founder of SES Research, which has been producing C60 for industrial purposes since the early '90s. Through some rather serendipitous events, including a 2012 study where SES Research supplied the C60 that ended up extending the lifespan of rats by 90%(!!), Chris and his company found themselves flung into the crazy biohacking and longevity communities that were yearning to have C60 for human consumption.

In our conversation today, Chris details the mechanisms of how C60 works to improve mitochondrial function (most notably, the B.O.S.S. Theory) and why it could be a key molecule to help humans extend lifespan beyond our current expectations. He also outlines the unfortunate state of the C60 supplement space and how most supplements have a much lower concentration than they claim and that some even have ZERO C60 in their product at all! This is why he has trademarked the term ESS60, which delineates an ultra high purity C60 that is specifically made for human consumption; meaning, if you are purchasing a C60 supplement, then "ESS60" must be in the ingredients list. Otherwise, you can assume it is a subpar product.

Chris covers other interesting topics, such as how C60 is produced, his perspective on longevity and how long he believes he can live and whether or not immortality is possible, testimonials around ESS60, the upper limit for ESS60 consumption and much more!

If you found the information in today's episode with Chris particularly interesting and/or compelling, please share it with a family member, friend, colleague and/or anyone that you think could benefit and be illuminated by this knowledge. Sharing is caring :)

As always, light up your health!

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Key Points

[00:00] Introduction to the Red Light Report and guest Chris Burres
[00:16] Chris Burres' Background and Credentials
[01:42] The Journey into C60 and ESS60: Origins and Entrepreneurial Story
[02:35] Collaboration with Dr. Jerome Corsi and the Book "Live Longer and Better"
[03:23] Chris' Early Entrepreneurial Aspirations and Career Path
[05:16] Entering the C60 Space: The Early Days of Manufacturing
[06:45] C60 and the Nobel Prize Connection
[07:47] The Role of Carbon Nanomaterials in Scientific Advancements
[09:20] Unique Properties of C60 and Why It Won a Nobel Prize
[11:11] Fullerenes and the Buckyball: The Chemistry of C60
[13:09] Quantum Behavior and Industrial Uses of C60
[14:13] Practical Applications of C60: Inks, Tires, and Solar Cells
[17:01] Advanced Uses: Endohedral Fullerenes and Cancer Treatment Potential
[18:00] Transition to Human Consumption: Longevity Research
[19:30] Study on Toxicity and the Discovery of C60’s Safety for Humans
[20:30] Difference between sugar molecule and sugar crystal; processing ESS60 for consumption.
[21:03] Making ESS60 bioavailable by dissolving it in olive oil.
[21:15] Toxicity study of ESS60 in rats leading to a 90% life extension.
[22:02] Initial consumer inquiries about how much ESS60 to consume.
[22:45] Labeling ESS60 as “not for human consumption” in 2013 despite studies showing safety.
[23:27] Tumor-free rats after consuming ESS60 compared to control group.
[24:10] Testimonials about knee pain relief (2013-2017), still labeled as "not for human consumption."
[26:14] Popular YouTube influencer in 2017 led to an increase in customer interest.
[27:13] ESS60 market concerns: low-quality C60 supplements.
[29:12] Testing of C60 products revealed most were low in concentration, except for a few.
[30:19] ESS60 trademark and safe processing of C60 for human consumption.
[32:08] Manufacturing process: Vaporizing graphite rods to produce ESS60.
[35:22] Importance of ultra-high vacuuming and solvent washing process.
[36:52] Dissolving ESS60 in olive oil takes three weeks for optimal concentration.
[38:25] Scale of C60 molecules compared to cells in the human body.
[39:08] Role of mitochondria and the typical dosage of ESS60.
[40:00] Reference to KT boundary and increased concentration of C60 during asteroid event.
[40:28] Comparing the number of C60 molecules to cells in the body.
[40:47] Where C60 is found in nature, including space and soot from candles.
[41:26] How C60 was discovered by Dr. Sir Harold Kroto.
[42:00] Candle soot containing C60 and how it's processed.
[42:39] Vaporizing graphite rods to produce ESS60 efficiently.
[43:07] Discussion on nanotubes and their strength for potential applications.
[44:14] Concept of a space elevator using nanotubes.
[45:22] Transition to discussing C60’s mechanism of action in the body.
[46:08] Role of C60 in life extension and comparison with calorie restriction.
[46:41] C60’s antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.
[47:22] C60's effectiveness as an antioxidant, stronger than Vitamin C.
[48:42] The impact of ESS60 on mental focus, energy, and sleep improvement.
[49:39] C60’s role in buffering oxidative stress in mitochondria.
[50:11] Theory of C60 acting like a paddy wagon for reactive oxygen species.
[52:17] Discussion on C60’s effects on glutathione and mitochondrial signaling.
[54:23] How C60 captures reactive oxygen species without degrading.
[55:12] Connection between inflammation, mitochondrial dysfunction, and ESS60.
[55:51] Exploring the synergy between red light therapy, methylene blue, and ESS60.
[56:57] Methylene blue’s photodynamic properties and its impact on mitochondria.
[58:06] Mechanism of red light therapy improving ATP production.
[59:17] Methylene blue’s role in ATP production and its benefits for brain health.
[1:00:18] C60 and mitochondria optimization
[1:00:37] Free radicals and oxidative stress cycle
[1:01:09] Impact of C60 on mitochondrial function
[1:01:40] Detection of pure carbon 60 with liquid chromatography
[1:02:04] Discussion on wavelengths and mitochondria research
[1:02:28] Full light spectrum and nature's effects
[1:03:01] Doctor Patel and mitochondrial blood test
[1:03:27] BioBlue and Leuco (methylene blue and leucomethylene blue)
[1:03:41] Difference between methylene blue and leucomethylene blue
[1:04:49] Longevity summit and Chris’s experiences with experts
[1:06:02] Human lifespan limits and expert predictions
[1:08:14] Medical information doubling and AI’s potential impact
[1:09:36]Stem cells and their connection to longevity
[1:12:15] Stem cells from red bone marrow and aging
[1:14:26] Benefits of ESS60 and head-to-toe testimonials
[1:16:17] Quick results with ESS60 and customer experiences
[1:18:08] Long-term effects and customer experiences with ESS60
[1:19:51] Emotional well-being and testimonials related to quitting smoking
[1:20:36] Longer emotional fuse and better sleep
[1:20:53] Link between mitochondria and emotional decisions
[1:21:07] Upper limit for C60 consumption
[1:21:35] Toxicity level of C60 compared to olive oil
[1:22:30] Examples of high C60 consumption
[1:23:29] Ramping up C60 intake for mitochondrial health
[1:24:14] Taking C60 to prevent hangovers
[1:24:55] Anthony Kunkel’s experience with C60 for ultra running
[1:25:32] C60’s effect on preventing damage during intense exercise
[1:26:31] Pre-conditioning and dosing strategies for C60
[1:26:54] C60 consistency and daily saturation
[1:27:44] Where the future of C60 research is heading
[1:27:57] Scientific process for validating C60 benefits
[1:29:03] Upcoming research collaborations and plans
[1:29:48] Extending life with refined C60 studies
[1:30:01] New research on C60 reducing inflammation in animals