January 07, 2026

Is it mold illness or CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome)? And does it matter?

24 minutes

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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Intro and disclaimer

01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS

03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS

04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't

06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols

07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols

11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis

13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs

16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment

19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment

22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors

23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com

Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test

Our episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOk

MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits

Study showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

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Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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