In this episode, I share a conversation with an extraordinary guest, Joey Vitale. Joey is a trademark attorney, and he’s also known as the brand legitimizer for online entrepreneurs, emerging thought leaders and creators. His approach to systematize a law firm is unique and highly valuable to learn from. He successfully cut down the client work to five hours a month or less. 

We cover several topics in this episode, including lawyer mental health, business systemization, and Joey's great lessons along his journey from a litigating attorney to a business owner. 

Tune in to find out!

In this episode we discuss:

• Taking time to think about and seek a vision for what type of lawyer you want to be. 
• The need for setting specific goals and understanding what meeting them looks like.
• The value in systematizing and dialing in the focus on the type of work your firm does.
• Getting to the point of letting go of being involved in everything.
• The power of entrusting members of your team to take ownership of their work.
• Accepting the fact that mistakes will be made, and mistakes can be fixed.
• Learning to stay out of the way and allowing your team to function without you.

Guest Bio: 

Joey Vitale is a trademark attorney (also known as a “brand legitimizer”) for online entrepreneurs, emerging thought leaders, and course creators. With his law firm and his courses, Joey helps online business owners call legal dibs on their brand name and signature methods so they never have to worry about losing their brand overnight. Joey has helped thousands of entrepreneurs and has spoken all over the country to help business owners stay safe and thriving. 

Company name: Indie Law

Website: www.indielaw.com

Email: [email protected]

Phone number: +13143301470

 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joeycvitale

 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeycvitale/

Twitter Username: @joeycvitale

 Instagram username: @joeycvitale

 

Allison Bio:

Allison C. Williams, Esq., is Founder and Owner of the Williams Law Group, LLC, with offices in Short Hills and Freehold, New Jersey. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, is Certified by the Supreme Court of New Jersey as a Matrimonial Law Attorney and is the first attorney in New Jersey to become Board-Certified by the National Board of Trial Advocacy in the field of Family Law. 

Ms. Williams is an accomplished businesswoman. In 2017, the Williams Law Group won the LawFirm500 award, ranking 14th of the fastest growing law firms in the nation, as Ms. Williams grew the firm 581% in three years. Ms. Williams won the Silver Stevie Award for Female Entrepreneur of the Year in 2017.  In 2018, Ms. Williams was voted as NJBIZ’s Top 50 Women in Business and was designated one of the Top 25 Leading Women Entrepreneurs and Business Owners. In 2019, Ms. Williams won the Seminole 100 Award for founding one of the fastest growing companies among graduates of Florida State University.

In 2018, Ms. Williams created Law Firm Mentor, a business coaching service for lawyers.  She helps solo and small law firm attorneys grow their business revenues, crush chaos in business and make more money.  Through multi-day intensive business retreats, group and one-to-one coaching, and strategic planning sessions, Ms. Williams advises lawyers on all aspects of creating, sustaining and scaling a law firm business – and specifically, she teaches them the core foundational principles of marketing, sales, personnel management, communications and money management in law firms. 

Contact Info:

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Scheduler: https://meetme.so/LawFirmMentor 

 

Snip-Its

00:27:27 (56 Seconds)

Joey Vitale: But it's so much more to me than just like I value time because that gives me time back. I really do think that the. And I heard someone say this, especially in a law firm setting, the the more your law firm depends on you, the less your law firm is worth. Yeah.

Allison Williams: Yeah, absolutely,

Joey Vitale: And I have really taken that to heart because it's it's not just bragging rights about, oh, I only work this much for my business. It's no, this is a really good sign that my business is in good shape. If I can if I can step away from it, if certain people in my team can step away from it for weeks at a time and everything is still running.

Allison Williams: Yeah. And the interesting thing about that is that the fact that we talk about CEOs and when we talk about CEOs in the context of a law firm, I think a lot of lawyers think of that is, I'm the head manager. They don't, they don't really distinguish that. There's a layer on top of being a manager, like a true CEO is not managing. A true CEO is leading.