My guest for podcast #174 is <a href='http://johnhunter.com/'>John Hunter</a>, a long-time friend and fellow blogger – at his <a href='http://management.curiouscatblog.net/'>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog</a> and, more recently, as a <a href='http://blog.deming.org/'>blogger for the W. Edwards Deming Institute</a>. John has recently published a book through <a href='http://leanpub.com/'>LeanPub.com</a> titled “<a href='https://leanpub.com/managementmatters'>Management Matters</a>.”
In this episode, John joins us from Malaysia, where he has been living, and we talk about his quality background – growing up in Madison, Wisconsin, influenced by his dad (<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hunter_(statistician)'>William Hunter</a>), <a href='http://nextgenerationconsulting.com/index.php/about-us/staff-bio/brian-joiner/'>Brian Joiner</a>, <a href='http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2013/03/28/george-box/'>George Box</a>, <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming'>Dr. Deming</a>, and others. John also talks about his book and work, why long-term thinking is such a rare commodity, and some of the lessons from Dr. Deming that mean the most to him.

For a link to this episode, refer people to <a href='https://www.leanblog.org/174'>www.leanblog.org/174</a>.
For earlier episodes, visit the <a href='http://www.leanpodcast.org/'>main Podcast page</a>, which includes information on how to <a href='https://mgraban.hipcast.com/rss/leanblog_podcast.xml'>subscribe via RSS</a> or <a href='http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/leanblog-podcast/id168151452'>via Apple Podcasts</a>.

My guest for podcast #174 is John Hunter, a long-time friend and fellow blogger – at his Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog and, more recently, as a blogger for the W. Edwards Deming Institute. John has recently published a book through LeanPub.com titled “Management Matters.” In this episode, John joins us from Malaysia, where he has been living, and we talk about his quality background – growing up in Madison, Wisconsin, influenced by his dad (William Hunter), Brian Joiner, George Box, Dr. Deming, and others. John also talks about his book and work, why long-term thinking is such a rare commodity, and some of the lessons from Dr. Deming that mean the most to him. For a link to this episode, refer people to www.leanblog.org/174. For earlier episodes, visit the main Podcast page, which includes information on how to subscribe via RSS or via Apple Podcasts.

My guest for podcast #174 is&nbsp;<a href="http://johnhunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Hunter</a>, a long-time friend and fellow blogger – at his&nbsp;<a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog</a>&nbsp;and, more recently, as a&nbsp;<a href="http://blog.deming.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">blogger for the W. Edwards Deming Institute</a>. John has recently published a book through&nbsp;<a href="http://leanpub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">LeanPub.com</a>&nbsp;titled “<a href="https://leanpub.com/managementmatters" rel="noopener noreferrer">Management Matters</a>.”
In this episode, John joins us from Malaysia, where he has been living, and we talk about his quality background – growing up in Madison, Wisconsin, influenced by his dad (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hunter_(statistician)" rel="noopener noreferrer">William Hunter</a>),&nbsp;<a href="http://nextgenerationconsulting.com/index.php/about-us/staff-bio/brian-joiner/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brian Joiner</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2013/03/28/george-box/" rel="noopener noreferrer">George Box</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dr. Deming</a>, and others. John also talks about his book and work, why long-term thinking is such a rare commodity, and some of the lessons from Dr. Deming that mean the most to him.

For a link to this episode, refer people to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.leanblog.org/174" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.leanblog.org/174</a>.
For earlier episodes, visit the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.leanpodcast.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">main Podcast page</a>, which includes information on how to&nbsp;<a href="https://mgraban.hipcast.com/rss/leanblog_podcast.xml" rel="noopener noreferrer">subscribe via RSS</a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/leanblog-podcast/id168151452" rel="noopener noreferrer">via Apple Podcasts</a>.

John Hunter, on His Book ’Management Matters,’ Dr. Deming, and More

Since 2006, the Lean Blog Interviews podcast has featured in-depth, candid conversations with leaders, thinkers, and doers in the world of Lean and continuous improvement. Hosted by Mark Graban—author, consultant, and longtime Lean practitioner—the show explores how Lean principles are being applied across industries, including healthcare, manufacturing, startups, and more.
What sets this podcast apart? We go beyond tools and buzzwords. Our guests share real-world stories of success, struggle, learning, and leadership. Whether you’re a seasoned Lean veteran or just getting started, you’ll gain practical insights and fresh perspectives that you can take back to your own organization.
Topics include:
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Lean as a management system and cultural transformation—not just a toolbox
</li>
<li>
Continuous improvement and problem-solving, at every level
</li>
<li>
Leadership behaviors that support real change
</li>
<li>
Psychological safety as a foundation for improvement
</li>
<li>
Lessons from the Toyota Production System, Lean Startup, and beyond
</li>
<li>
Candid stories about mistakes—and what we learn from them
</li>
</ul>
We don’t talk much about “Lean Six Sigma” here. But if you believe improvement is about people first—this podcast is for you.
Many episodes feature a special focus on Lean in healthcare, reflecting Mark’s deep work in that field. Hear from leaders working to improve patient safety, reduce waste, and build cultures of respect and learning.
Find all episodes and show notes at <a class="decorated-link" href="https://www.leancast.org">www.LeanCast.org</a>. Learn more about Mark and his work at <a class="decorated-link" href="https://www.leanblog.org">www.LeanBlog.org</a>. Questions or feedback? Email <a class="decorated-link cursor-pointer">mark@leanblog.org </a>

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Since 2006, the Lean Blog Interviews podcast has featured in-depth, candid conversations with leaders, thinkers, and doers in the world of Lean and continuous improvement. Hosted by Mark Graban—author, consultant, and longtime Lean practitioner—the show explores how Lean principles are being applied across industries, including healthcare, manufacturing, startups, and more. What sets this podcast apart? We go beyond tools and buzzwords. Our guests share real-world stories of success, struggle, learning, and leadership. Whether you’re a seasoned Lean veteran or just getting started, you’ll gain practical insights and fresh perspectives that you can take back to your own organization. Topics include: Lean as a management system and cultural transformation—not just a toolbox Continuous improvement and problem-solving, at every level Leadership behaviors that support real change Psychological safety as a foundation for improvement Lessons from the Toyota Production System, Lean Startup, and beyond Candid stories about mistakes—and what we learn from them We don’t talk much about “Lean Six Sigma” here. But if you believe improvement is about people first—this podcast is for you. Many episodes feature a special focus on Lean in healthcare, reflecting Mark’s deep work in that field. Hear from leaders working to improve patient safety, reduce waste, and build cultures of respect and learning. Find all episodes and show notes at www.LeanCast.org.Learn more about Mark and his work at www.LeanBlog.org.Questions or feedback? Email mark@leanblog.org

Since 2006, the Lean Blog Interviews podcast has featured in-depth, candid conversations with leaders, thinkers, and doers in the world of Lean and continuous improvement. Hosted by Mark Graban—author, consultant, and longtime Lean practitioner—the show explores how Lean principles are being applied across industries, including healthcare, manufacturing, startups, and more.
What sets this podcast apart? We go beyond tools and buzzwords. Our guests share real-world stories of success, struggle, learning, and leadership. Whether you’re a seasoned Lean veteran or just getting started, you’ll gain practical insights and fresh perspectives that you can take back to your own organization.
Topics include:
<ul>
<li>
Lean as a management system and cultural transformation—not just a toolbox
</li>
<li>
Continuous improvement and problem-solving, at every level
</li>
<li>
Leadership behaviors that support real change
</li>
<li>
Psychological safety as a foundation for improvement
</li>
<li>
Lessons from the Toyota Production System, Lean Startup, and beyond
</li>
<li>
Candid stories about mistakes—and what we learn from them
</li>
</ul>
We don’t talk much about “Lean Six Sigma” here. But if you believe improvement is about people first—this podcast is for you.
Many episodes feature a special focus on Lean in healthcare, reflecting Mark’s deep work in that field. Hear from leaders working to improve patient safety, reduce waste, and build cultures of respect and learning.
Find all episodes and show notes at <a href="https://www.leancast.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.LeanCast.org</a>. Learn more about Mark and his work at <a href="https://www.leanblog.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.LeanBlog.org</a>. Questions or feedback? Email <a rel="noopener noreferrer">mark@leanblog.org&nbsp;</a>

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