Lorraine and Trish catch up with the model-turned-mum-turned children’s wear designer to find out how she and husband Jamie are coping with a partially empty nest, her unexpected new career plan, why all she wants to do for her 50th birthday is dance and never saying no to dinner with Madonna ever again. Plus we discuss what Jools' childhood helping care for her disabled dad taught her about parenting and relationships. Also in this episode: how to buy a new fragrance for a new life stage & a Birmingham odyssey inspires an 80s Nostalgia Noodle

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