#813. We’re here for an episode with Kaitlyn’s bestie, Kat Campbell, as they break down their In’s & Out’s for 2025! The girls are all about clean living with the 80/20 rule, romanticizing small moments, and making staying in cooler than ever. Meanwhile, small talk, weekend FOMO, and running marathons (sorry, Neve Shulman) are officially out. They also get real about anxiety, why public bathrooms need music, and the trends they’re fully embracing this year. Grab a glass and get ready to laugh, nod along, and maybe even take some notes for your own 2025 game plan!

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