Some TGM listeners might know Kelly McCarren as Leigh's cohost on podcast You Beauty; but since having her son Lenny she's also been a breath of fresh air documenting her parenting experience.

She joins Leigh and Tegan to explain her birth story that you'll have to hear to believe, and how she's making so many women feel seen with her realistic parenting content.

Plus our Nails and Fails, including Facebook Marketplace wins and the trouble with car naps.

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Host: Leigh Campbell & Tegan Natoli

Producer: Emmeline Peterson

Audio Engineer: Madeline Joannou

Guest: Kelly McCarren

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