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One of the most effective, and biblical, strategies for growing something is to focus on people over processes, profits, and even our own preferences. Pastors John and Wayne discuss the power of a people-first mentality and how to grow in this area of leadership. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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Starting things is fun and exciting, but real leadership is tested when it's time to end something. How do you know when to end a team, product, program or ministry? Pastors John and Wayne discuss practical strategies for knowing when to keep going and when to cut it off. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners like: leadership blindspots in young pastors, what to do about AI, weekly schedule ideas, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing [email protected] or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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At the end of the day, every pastor wants their church to grow - not just to have a big church - but to reach the people in their community, to serve a city, to do something significant for God. And while there is no exact formula for growing a church, there are certainly things that may be hindering your growth that you might be missing. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss 10 reasons your church might not be growing right now. Follow the show on Instagram here: @leadershipinblackandwhite. The background check service referenced in this episode is called Protect My Ministry.

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Part two of a conversation talking with our friend and colleague Jonathan Wilson about all things longevity. He has been in ministry for 40 years and has experienced numerous highs and lows, transitions, and more. This is a rich conversation for any leader looking to be in the game for the long haul! Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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In this episode, we're talking with our friend and colleague Jonathan Wilson about all things longevity. He has been in ministry for 40 years and has experienced numerous highs and lows, transitions, and more. This is a rich, 2-part conversation for any leader looking to be in the game for the long haul! Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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Part 2 of a conversation about sabbaticals: Pastor Wayne has returned from his first ever sabbatical! In this episode, we talk about it. What did he do? What did he learn? We also talk in depth about what a sabbatical is and what it is not and how we have started to implement a sabbatical culture in our church. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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Pastor Wayne has returned from his first ever sabbatical! In this episode, we talk about it. What did he do? What did he learn? We also talk in depth about what a sabbatical is and what it is not and how we have started to implement a sabbatical culture in our church. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: leading team members who don't get along, speaking on hot-button issues, understanding the Bible, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing [email protected] or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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Leading a team isn't just about vision and execution, it's about people. And people are complex. In this episode, we're unpacking the hardest parts of leading staff. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!