Two idiot podcasters and an industry CEO walk into a brewery …No, it’s not a joke. Chad & Cheese threw back some brews with <a href="Pillar.hr">Pillar.hr</a>’s CEO and Founder Mark Simpson last week, and luckily for you, the mics were on. Talkin’ remote work, employee culture and the power of Middle America to reshape the coasts.Cheers!

Two idiot podcasters and an industry CEO walk into a brewery … No, it’s not a joke. Chad & Cheese threw back some brews with Pillar.hr’s CEO and Founder Mark Simpson last week, and luckily for you, the mics were on. Talkin’ remote work, employee culture and the power of Middle America to reshape the coasts. Cheers!

Two idiot podcasters and an industry CEO walk into a brewery …No, it’s not a joke. Chad &amp; Cheese threw back some brews with <a href="Pillar.hr" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pillar.hr</a>’s CEO and Founder Mark Simpson last week, and luckily for you, the mics were on. Talkin’ remote work, employee culture and the power of Middle America to reshape the coasts.Cheers!

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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