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And also, the NHS workers they don't really get paid that well. I get the sense that, you know, even Adam does not really get paid that well let alone the more junior doctor like Shruti.
No. this is the whole ridiculous thing is that junior doctors sometimes they are actually paid more if they worked in a fast-food restaurant than as a doctor, but now I wouldn't say it's getting better.
But in recent years there have been so many strikes, even consultants have gone on strike. I read in the news today that I think they've made a pay deal now, but ultimately, this is the one strike that people generally support, because I would say in the UK among the vast majority of the population, we have a lot of respect for NHS workers. We may complain about the system. We may complain about the politicians. But we don't really complain that much about the doctors or nurses.
我从跟英国人的交谈里面, 我也感受得很明显, 大家只要谈到 NHS他们公立医疗体系里面的医护人员, 大家都会觉得非常尊重.
During Covid times, there was like clapping for NHS workers, right？
Yeah.
就是说为他们鼓掌, 还有给他们带什么吃的放的什么他们的车上这种,觉得他们都是这个英雄白衣天使, but they generally have a lot of things to complain about the system.
Yeah.
Although probably you guys all know that currently there's no better alternative.
No one would ever say, let's get rid of the NHS, nobody would actually turn out and say “okay, we need to go back to medical care that you have to pay money for.”
Well, exactly. Because to be honest to get rid of your NHS is getting rid of the concept of welfare state essentially.
Yeah.
就是整个福利国家的,你就全部都会要取消掉.
Yeah.
I don't know if you guys remember that what we talked about. So in the UK this is what happens. There's basically dual track. So you have the NHS which is for everyone which is free for everyone, even for people who, for example, even when I lived in the UK although I did not have permanent residency, I was not a citizen, a national. However, because I lived there for long enough period, I also had access to NHS.
Yeah.
So that is one.
The other one is the private health care, is the private hospitals who charges you ￡200 for 115 minutes consultation.
Quite a few people have private medical care in the UK, you can get private medical insurance and some NHS doctors they do also work in the private sphere so that they can basically get more money.
This is completely normal, right? And it's allowed?
It’s allowed and it is completely normal. So some people they do go for private medical care, but private medical care can only go so far.
So for example, for very complex procedures, you still more likely go to the NHS.