From a gopher cleaning wheels to becoming one of the most successful team owners in the Tasman, and a very close friendship with the late Denny Hulme - Lyall Williamson has had an astronomical rise in motorsport.

Join Greg 'Rusty' Rust on his mission to preserve the story of Lyall, who has worked with over a hundred drivers, ran teams in South Africa, Australia and his native New Zealand.

This chat goes everywhere, including a tale of when a Formula 1 greats came down under to race over summer and how one of them crashed into the dunnies!

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