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What are officially the happiest and least happy decades of our lives, and why is that whole question a crock? We discuss with a sprinkle of advice from the guru herself... Jennifer Aniston.

Plus, recommendations for your weekend and beyond, including the book that might finally change Holly's life. Em Vernem has something to help you do your hair, and Mia’s got a whole list for you. Brace yourselves. 

And, a Gwyneth update, a workplace dilemma, and the time a creepy crawly rudely ruined a daily ritual—we wrap up the week with best and worst.

What To Listen To Next: 

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• Listen: We’ve Got The Ick
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• Listen: The Jackie O Story We All Got Wrong
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Recommendations: 

Holly wants you to listen to / read Meditations for Mortals By Oliver Burkeman

Em wants you to try the VS Sassoon Unbound Cord and Cordless Curler

Mia wants you to read Out of the Box: A one-stop guide to navigating neurodivergence By Rebecca Sparrow & Madonna King

Mia wants you to read Long Island Compromise By Taffy Brodesser-Akner

Mia wants you to listen / read From Here to the Great Unknown: A Memoir By Lisa Marie Presley & Riley Keough 

Mia wants you to check out The Freckled Froge toys 

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What to Read: 

• Read: MIA FREEDMAN: '3 things my dermatologist just told me about rosacea.'
• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'For me, sobbing in a tent was the first sign.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Imagine finding out you're standing on a gold mine. Lily Allen did just that and now she's making more money from sharing photos of her feet than she does from her hits. Mia's not surprised because the Internet has given a rating to HER feet -- but do Lily's score higher? And is this the beginning of some prime Mia/Lily feet beef? We unpack. 

The Menendez brothers admitted killing their parents. Now they might be about to get out of jail. Here's why a TV show might be responsible for freeing them from a life behind bars.

And, Jessie knows everything about a particular influencer’s spicy divorce. Mia and Holly know nothing. Welcome to everything/nothing, the Aspyn Ovard edition.       

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What to Read: 

• Read: Erik and Lyle Menendez have spent 34 years in jail. A district attorney just handed them a lifeline.
• Read: There's evidence that Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz have just broken up.
• Read: After Tom Brady left Bridget Moynahan, she found out she was pregnant. Here's what her life looks like now.
• Read: Gisele Bündchen joined a self-defence class to heal after divorce. Then she met her boyfriend.
• Read: Lily Allen is selling foot pics online. But how much do 'footfluencers' really make?
• Read: Aspyn Ovard filed for divorce on the day her third child was born. Now it's getting messy.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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One of the most successful women in Australian media has surprised everyone by opening up about her serious addiction issues and a stint in rehab. And it reminds us of something we repeatedly choose to forget. We discuss Jackie O's viral and very vulnerable moment as the star confirms that proceeds from her memoir The Whole Truth will be donated to addiction treatment centre Odyssey House. 

Plus, you’ve probably seen the clip of the Irish movie star Saoirse Ronan sitting on The Graham Norton Show couch, shutting everyone up with a truth bomb that resonated with women everywhere. But what wasn’t said? 

And, screw getting a mentor, don’t dream big and really, really don’t trust your gut. The best career advice that’s exactly the opposite of all the stuff you’ve ever been told.           

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• Listen to our latest episode: The Friends Who Don’t Make The Grid
• Listen: Polls, Vibes & Trump's Work Experience Day
• Listen: Raygun And Some Very Big Feelings
• Listen to No Filter: Jackie O On What She Wishes She'd Known About Divorce
• Listen to True Crime Conversations 
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What to Read: 

• Read: With just 10 words, Saoirse Ronan silenced all the men on The Graham Norton Show.
• Read: Jackie O hid her addiction 'hell' for 5 years. Then a phone call changed everything.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Jessie Stephens 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Outlouders, Mia has a little treat for you today about one of our Roman Empires... Trad Wives. 

Trad Wives like Hannah Neeleman and her Ballerina Farm empire have captured our imagination - and divided our opinions. They're an Instagram phenomenon using highly-produced content to promote traditional family values - specifically, the idea that women would be happier if they stayed home and served their husbands and children, trading in a life of career-focused grind for a life of content domesticity - and nobody sells this idea better than Hannah.

Megan Agnew is a journalist for UK newspaper The Times. She managed to spend a day with Hannah, her husband Daniel and their eight children on the notoriously hard-to-penetrate Ballerina Farm. Megan saw behind the scenes but what she witnessed is very different to what we see on Instagram. Her article went viral and sparked a million think pieces and spurred some very strong reactions… including from the Neelemans themselves.

So, what is behind the Trad Wife movement? Is it just harmless entrepreneurship, or is there a darker, more serious ideology beneath the surface?

You can follow Megan Agnew here.

You can listen to our episode with Tia Levings who barely escaped her Trad Wife life, here.

THE END BITS:

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You can listen to Mamamia's comedy podcast Cancelled here: Ballerina Farm: A Secret Epidural And A Shit Birthday Present.

Listen to more No Filter interviews here and follow us on Instagram here.

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CREDITS:

Host: Mia Freedman

You can find Mia on Instagram here and get her newsletter here.

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Audio Producer: Leah Porges & Thom Lion

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures

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Do you have a friend you love, but somehow, they never ever make the grid? Are you that friend? We unpack the new politics of social media friendship.

Also, the most ridiculously wonderful (and VERY spicy) TV show of the year, an interview that made Jessie Stephens swoon and Em’s 20-minute face routine. It’s recommendations. 

And, our Bests & Worsts of the week which include writing mistakes and what they reveal about you, an accolade from the incomparable Anne Stephens (the woman to blame for Jessie and Clare Stephens!) and…. sitting down.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Polls, Vibes & Trump's Work Experience Day
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• Listen: Mia Re-thinks Her Relationship With Social Media
• Listen to Em Vernem on Things You Didn't Learn In School 
• Listen to Em Vernem on You Beauty
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

RECOMMENDATIONS: 

Jessie wants you to listen to Andrew Garfield Modern Love. She also mentioned The Lie:The Murder of Grace Millane - Netflix.

Holly wants you to watch Rivals - Disney+

Em wants you to try Trinny London Cleansing Balm 

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What to Read: 

• Read: HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'For me, sobbing in a tent was the first sign.'
• Read: 'The $40 outfit that got more compliments than my most expensive looks.'
• Read: 'I'm a dermal clinician and here's the $25 serum I buy on repeat for juicy skin.'
• Read: You're either going to love or hate this summer shoe trend.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Britney’s Spears' latest wedding and the rise of ‘sologamy’. Confused? Don't worry, we explain. 

Plus, has the US exported it's abortion politics all the way to Australia? This week, it seems yes. We unpack why the conversation about abortion laws is ramping up.   

And. why women clean. The answer, apparently, is much more complicated than well, someone has to.  

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: It’s Time To Unpack ‘Nobody Wants This’
• Listen: The Celebrity Who Dated A Witch
• Listen: Mansplaining & Resting Worried Face - VP Debate Debrief
• Listen: Sex Boundaries & Gen Z's 'Oprah'
• Listen to more of Em Vernem on The Spill 
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Want to try our new exercise app? Click here to start a seven-day free trial of MOVE by Mamamia 

What to Read: 

• Read: Late term abortions might become illegal in South Australia. For Natasha and many women, they're vital.
• Read: The most effective hack to clean your house fast, according to a cleaning expert.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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A millennial pop icon is dead, and among the lurid coverage of the death of Liam Payne, a slow grumble is growing about whether it can ever be okay for a teenager to be world famous. We discuss. 

Plus, King Charles is here. Have you noticed? We unpack the underwhelming welcome of Charles & Camilla. 

And, does the return of the Victoria’s Secret fashion show foretell the American election result? Stay with us as Amelia’s going to explain why undies and politics are inextricably  linked. 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: In Defence Of Marital Secrets
• Listen: Ah. So That’s Why Donald Trump Was Fist Dancing
• Listen: Adam Brody's Bright Green Flags
• Listen to The Quicky: Unpacking Liam Payne's Death & What Is A Therian?
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to Read: 

• Read: Cheryl Cole has spoken of the 'earth shattering' loss of Liam Payne. But she also has a message for us.
• Read: There's been a third suspected assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life. Here's what we know.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester 

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In defence of marital secrets. Does intimacy have to go hand in hand with being a wide-open book? We have some thoughts (and some secrets). 

Plus, we have your weekend recommendations. Holly has a book that blew her mind. Jessie is pretending she watches things other than true crime docos and Em Vernem wants to tell you about something British and scary.

Also - what it’s really like to live without a phone, a story about an emergency and the truth about Em’s sickie… it’s best and worst.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Ah. So That’s Why Donald Trump Was Fist Dancing
• Listen: Adam Brody's Bright Green Flags
• Listen: The PM Should've Checked His Angel Numbers
• Listen:  An Honest Chat About Bad Relationships
• Listen: ‘October Theory’ Might Explain The Vibe Shift
• Listen to Em Vernem on The Spill 
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

RECOMMENDATIONS: 

Jessie wants you to watch Disclaimer on Apple TV+

Holly wants you to read By Any Other Name by Jodi Picoult 

Em wants you to watch Sweet Pea on Binge 

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Want to try our new exercise app? Click here to start a seven-day free trial of MOVE by Mamamia 

What to Read: 

• Read: The attachment style that's growing faster than all the others.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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We’re looking for a man in finance. But he’s not in the office today. What happened to women when one of the most macho work cultures in the world tried a four-day work week. We unpack.  

Plus, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese bought a very expensive house. You might have heard. So, is this perfectly dandy, class betrayal, or just a little quiet quit? We discuss the reaction. 

And, 222, 423 and don’t try to make a 5 year a 7 year, you fool. Why number woo-woo is so very hot right now. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: An Honest Chat About Bad Relationships
• Figure out your attachment style by doing the quiz
• Listen: ‘October Theory’ Might Explain The Vibe Shift
• Listen: Melania Is Not Afraid To Name Names
• Listen to our daily news podcast The Quicky 
• Listen to Em Vernem on The Spill 
• Listen to But Are You Happy? What Zoë Foster Blake Knows About Being An Imperfect Perfectionist
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Want to try our new exercise app? Click here to start a seven-day free trial of MOVE by Mamamia 

What to Read: 

• Read: The 4-day work week results are in. And it's good news for women.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban’s teenage daughter Sunday Rose walked the runway for Miu Miu last week, Kim Kardashian’s interview with her tween daughter is going viral... but one Australian businesswoman and influencer has taken a very different approach to how she puts her child on social media and some of her followers are weirdly angry about it. We discuss. 

Plus, the world’s number one show is about healthy relationships and loser siblings - we’re unpacking why Nobody Wants This has been the unexpected streaming hit of the year.

And, don’t call me baby - or mate. The iconic word that people are passionately arguing about this week after a retail worker got in trouble for using it at work.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: ‘October Theory’ Might Explain The Vibe Shift
• Listen: Melania Is Not Afraid To Name Names
• Listen: Sex Boundaries & Gen Z's 'Oprah'
• Listen: A Holiday, A Text Message & One Really Sh*tty Boss
• Listen to Em Vernem on The Spill 
• Listen to The Spill: A Brutally Honest Review Of Nobody Wants This
• Listen to But Are You Happy?: Steph Claire Smith: On Looks As Currency, A Different Kind Of Parenting & Her Biggest Goal Yet
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

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What to Read: 

• Read Em's article: We need to talk about the most heartbreaking plotline in Nobody Wants This.
• Read: Nobody Wants This is coming back for Season 2 and Adam Brody just shared what happens next.
• Read: With four words, Nobody Wants This has healed millennial women.
• Read: What happened to the real-life couple from Nobody Wants This.
• Read: The true story behind Nobody Wants This is just as sweet.
• Read: North West was interviewed by her mum. Here are 7 things we learnt about her life.
• Read: 4 months ago, Kanye West’s ex-assistant filed a lawsuit. The new allegations are even worse.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Senior Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Production: Leah Porges

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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