Mamamia Out Loud

First order of business: Clare has an apology for the Socceroos. Sort of. 

Also: A sliding scale of Gwyneth Paltrow’s recent “bold” decisions, from the silly to the shocking. 

Trump got a really good birthday present, we’re not sure what it might cost us. 

And, are Australians going to have to let go of swimming in the open ocean? 

Plus: A very Beckham weekend culminated in failed bid for sibling reconciliation - in a very public place.

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• Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
• Listen: Sorry Clare. There’s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby
• Listen: The Boy ‘Mom’ Trap & Actually, We’ve Met
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'As a boy mum, the Beckham scandal is my literal nightmare.'
• A pink dress, a handwritten letter and an accusation: The Beckham family feud just got messier.
• 'Oh Victoria, your husband is not on your team.'
• Does the average Australian know this about shark attacks?

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Do you share a bathroom with your partner? Rita Wilson says that's the key to her 38 year marriage to Tom Hanks. Meghan Trainor agrees, while Michelle Obama is completely anti the idea. Clare, Em & Amelia are unpacking why a shared bathroom might actually be the ultimate test of relationship maturity. It’s a hard no from Em.

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Also, there's a new type of influencer making money by simply having no friends. So, is there something problematic about romanticising social isolation, or is filming your solo life a genuine quest for human connection? We discuss.

Plus, ‘You look good for your age’ is meant to be the ultimate compliment, but actually… is it? 

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Recommendations

Em recommends Not Suitable For Work on Disney +.

Clare recommends Glazing Milk by Rhode Skin.

Amelia recommends Widows Bay on Apple TV.

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What to read: 

• Australian Health'I was told it might be perimenopause. Then my doctor saw something he didn't want to see.'
• Kane Evans didn't want to live while playing NRL as a gay man. His life was saved with 5 words.
• 'I accidentally found the perfect Bali holiday for women who are completely exhausted.'
• SEX DIARIES: 'The controversial way I found out what good sex should feel like.'
• It's been five years since Cleo Smith was abducted from a campsite. This is her life now.

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Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Sometimes you just need an impromptu therapy session with absolutely no professionals present. From the adult who calls their parents by their first names to the person who orders a salad at a pub, Clare, Amelia and Em are unpacking the exact types of people we just don’t trust.

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Australia’s fertility rate has sunk to a record low, but researchers swear they’ve found the one simple trick to get women to have more babies. It does involve your home office’s proximity to the bedroom, but not quite in the way you might think.

Plus, how are powerful women like Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan still being target with 300 year old Salem tropes like ‘Ditch The Witch’? Julia Gillard, like us, has thoughts.

Also, Madonna just dropped a star-studded 10-minute musical short film called Confessions II.  We’re breaking down every single celebrity cameo you might have missed.

And, we explain the reason why Taylor Swift, Timothée Chalamet and Ben Stiller are in orange and blue all over your social media feed.

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• Listen to our latest episode: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama
• Listen: Spoiled Pig Syndrome & Our List Of Things That Are Just Not Working
• Listen: Sorry Clare. There’s No Better Time To NOT Have A Baby
• Listen: The Boy ‘Mom’ Trap & Actually, We’ve Met
• Listen: The Married People Claiming 'Hot Divorce Energy'
• Listen: Don’t Go To Uni, Baby Doll Dresses & The World’s Coolest Wedding Hat
• Listen: Reading-Gap Relationships & The 'Daddy' Of It All
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

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What to read: 

• 'Five words from someone I trusted nearly broke me. Here's what I know now.'
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Want to start a fight in 3 words? Work from home.
• The real reason less of us are having babies in 2025.
• Your 5-minute news explainer to get you up to date on June 9, 2026.

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Emily Vernem & Amelia Lester on our subscribers only episode.  You can listen to the full conversation: 3 (Celebrity) Weddings And A Guest Drama 

Two big weddings happened over the weekend. One celebrity, one Royal. Plus there’s speculation about a third involving pop royalty, and Mia, Amelia and Em need to unpack all of them.

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First up, Dua Lipa married Callum Turner in a glorious three-day extravaganza in Palermo, Sicily.  So why – like Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez before them –  were the locals not altogether happy

While, deep in the Cotswolds, King Charles’ nephew Peter Phillips got married to Harriet Sperling in a tiny church, and some very notable family members didn't make the cut.

And then there’s Taylor Swift. There are reports she’s about to marry Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden on the 4th of July weekend and the guest list is stressing us out. From Blake Lively, to avoiding an awkward Harry Styles run-in, how exactly do you choose who's on the list? And, what about the ‘no ring, no bring’ theory?

Oh, and Mia is back from Tokyo and we need to debrief.

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• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: FREE SUBS TASTER: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater's controversial love story is over. This is what we know.
• 'My baby's death shouldn't make you uncomfortable. We need to talk about it.'
• 'I thought my partner was the one. Then I found his notes app I wasn't meant to read.'
• One scene in this hit Netflix show forced me to confront the most dangerous habit in my own relationship.
• Jeni Haynes created 2,681 personalities to survive her father. Her childhood toy brought him undone.

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Remember when oversharing on the internet was a thing?

The era of the ‘personal essay’ was a time when people poured their messy insides out for the world to read. Except now those stories are frozen in time. Forever. And the oversharing hangover is real.

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Mia, Holly and Em are unpacking the sometimes brutal backlash of ‘going viral’ over a deeply personal moment and the slightly awkward nightmare of your family and friends reading about your business online. 

So, is the personal essay dead – or have we all just moved to Substack? And, should some of those literal journal entries actually just stay in the drafts? Mia has thoughts.

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• Listen: The Married People Claiming 'Hot Divorce Energy'
• Listen: Don’t Go To Uni, Baby Doll Dresses & The World’s Coolest Wedding Hat
• Listen: Reading-Gap Relationships & The 'Daddy' Of It All
• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
• Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• Mia Freedman: "Your son growing up will feel like the slowest break up you've ever known."
• 'I've been an oversharer my whole life. Finally, science says that's a good thing.'
• 'I'm talking to a guy who ghosted me a year ago. He has absolutely no idea who I am.'
• 'I expect my “rich” friends to pay for my half of dinner. And you should too.'
• Losing My Friend Over Wegovy: She hid her semaglutide use, knowing that I would spiral. She was right; we haven’t spoken since.

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Do you suffer from 'Spoiled Pig Syndrome'? Honestly, maybe. We unpack Lena Dunham’s latest theory that we’ve all become a little too accustomed to getting the treat before we’ve even learned the trick. 

Plus, Former The Hills Reality TV star Spencer Pratt is officially running for Mayor of Los Angeles. We’re nominating our top contenders if Aussie celebs entered politics.

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Also, paper straws, automatic taps, hand dryers and Bluetooth. It’s 2026. So why are there certain things that just don’t work? We have a simple request for the universe: be better 

And, we’re bedazzling now. Em is excited.

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Recommendations

Em recommends Torriden Dive-In Low Molecule Hyaluronic Acid Serum.

Clare recommends The Crash documentary on Netflix. 

Holly recommends The Four Seasons on Netflix.

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• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: FREE SUBS TASTER: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding

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What to read: 

• The one thing happily married women have quietly stopped doing.
• 'My partner kept putting off trying for a baby. Then I got a text that explained why.'
• 'I spent years working in reconciliation as a non-Indigenous person. Here's the thing we never want to admit.'
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The one question I really wanted to ask Jacinda Ardern.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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Is a female umpire the reason a big-deal tennis player lost his match? He certainly thought so. 

A famous 'boy mom' has insisted she only want her sons to marry women with ‘dead mothers’ and everyone’s just a little disturbed.

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What is the correct response to 'actually, we’ve met'? Your hosts do not agree.

 And, why doesn’t anyone know what POV means?

Oh, and just throwing it out there: An argument for why women should not be allowed to write books. Obviously.

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• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'The world is choosing daughters, but here is my case for the "boy mum".'
• Mia Freedman: "Your son growing up will feel like the slowest break up you've ever known."
• Trad wife drama and Anne Hathaway: Everything you need to know about the most divisive book of 2026.
• A New York heiress thought her marriage was solid. Then a stranger left a voicemail.

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Hot divorce energy is having a moment and you don’t actually have to be divorced to get in on it. According to an article in The Guardian, 2026 might be the year of the ‘Hot Divorcée Summer.’ 

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In today’s subscriber episode, Mia, Holly and Em are unpacking exactly what happens when women stop performing for everyone else and start focusing entirely on themselves.

Also, can you actually claim 'big divorce energy' if you're still... married?

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• Listen: Reading-Gap Relationships & The 'Daddy' Of It All
• Listen: What We Wish We'd Never Written On The Internet
• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'I agonised over divorce for years. These 5 things caught me off guard afterwards.'
• There's a new divorce tactic draining women dry. It's called 'lawfare'.
• 'I divorced my husband after 30 years. The hardest loss had nothing to do with him.'
• 'The perks of divorce nobody talks about. But everyone should hear.'

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Our very favourite polymath popstar Dua Lipa got married at the weekend and warning: Big Bride Hats are about to be everywhere. 

Also: Why do some female musicians get oceans of criticism for their bodies and clothes, while others do not? Meet the baby-doll discourse.

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While we’re at it: Don’t go to uni. That’s the advice coming at Australian kids from AI-savvy academics, and is it terrible advice? 

Are you time-poor or time affluent? And if you’re lucky enough to find some “time confetti”, how do you spend it? 

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• Listen: What We Wish We'd Never Written On The Internet
• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
• Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• This dress is causing problems.

• The one question I really wanted to ask Jacinda Ardern.

• 'I'm a frugal fashion editor. These stylish winter finds are giving bougie on a budget.'
• 'I read for a living. Here are all the best new books to read in June.'
• 'I spent thousands treating my perimenopause. Here's what I wish I'd known from the start.'

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Katy Perry, Kylie Jenner, Alex Cooper, we have a question. What’s with “Daddy”? And should we have the ick?

Also, are you in a reading-gap relationship? 

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Plus, we answer a VERY important question: How often SHOULD you wash your hair?

And check-in with Em’s analogue, friction-maxxing life. It’s going great.

Recommendations

Em recommends The Mandalorian and Grogu, the latest Star Wars movie.  

Clare recommends Is It Too Early To Bitch by Grace Rouvray. 

Holly recommends Urzila on ABC iview 

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• Listen: A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’
• Listen: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
• Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
• Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
• Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
• Listen: An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• 'Something doesn't seem right.' A theory about Katy Perry's tour and the relentless backlash.
• 'It makes zero sense on paper. But I've finally figured out why Kylie and Timothée work.'
• These 7 books will cure your reading slump immediately.
• 'I'm a psychologist and there's an easy experiment I recommend everyone try.'
• 'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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