The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Meet the Oxford Student Who Built Three Multimillion-Dollar Brands by 25 (ft. Grace Beverley)


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Founder and author Grace Beverley built a multimillion-dollar portfolio of brands—TALA, Shreddy, and The Productivity Method—before turning 25.

In this episode of The Burnouts, Grace joins Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to share how she went from posting anonymous fitness content at Oxford to leading some of the UK’s fastest-growing female-founded companies. She breaks down the pressure of being a young woman in power and the bias female founders still face.

Grace opens up about juggling multiple businesses, navigating personal grief, and the hidden cost of public success. She also speaks candidly about relationships, ambition, and the standards women are expected to meet.

Whether you’re building a brand, raising capital, or figuring out how to stay ambitious without burning out, this conversation offers an unfiltered look at what it really takes for young women to succeed.

Chapters
00:00 – From anonymous fitness posts to Oxford
02:15 – The £1 ebooks that changed her life
05:20 – Building her first multimillion-dollar business
08:10 – Why women must stop chasing “shiny” projects
11:00 – The truth about scaling TALA & Shreddy
14:30 – Fundraising bias & the questions women still get asked
18:00 – Miscarriage, grief & running a company
21:15 – The impossible standards for female founders
24:00 – Relationships that dim ambition
27:00 – Why social media punishes successful women
30:00 – Building Retrograde & the creator economy
33:00 – How Grace makes decisions fast
36:00 – What she wishes every young woman knew about power

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About The Burnouts
The Burnouts brings you raw, unfiltered conversations with today’s top founders, creators, and culture-shaping entrepreneurs. Hosted by Stanford roommates turned startup co-founders Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni, the show goes beyond headlines to explore the real stories, breakdowns, and breakthroughs that define your 20s.

Past guests include Paris Hilton, Tommy Hilfiger, Kris Jenner, Karlie Kloss, and other entrepreneurs redefining our generation.

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