The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Meta vs. OpenAI: The Poaching Wars


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This week, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and Emi Beredugo sling zingers at the tech and policy chaos of today's work of work. First up, they cackle over OpenAI’s Sam Altman throwing shade at Meta, claiming Zuck’s crew dangled $100 million bonuses to poach his AI wizards.

Altman, smirking on his brother’s podcast, scoffed, “Meta’s not exactly an innovation powerhouse,” betting OpenAI’s culture will outshine cash as they chase superintelligence—AI that’ll make humans look like dial-up modems. Chad quips, “Zuck’s throwing cash like confetti, but Altman’s holding the AGI trump card.”

Next, the hosts tackle Trump’s immigration whiplash. Last week, he hit pause on ICE raids targeting farms and hotels—where 42% of crop workers and 7.6% of hospitality staff are undocumented—after farmers cried foul. But days later, he flipped, doubling down on mass deportations, especially in blue states, risking $315 billion in economic fallout.

Tech gets weirder with Amazon’s Andy Jassy predicting AI will shrink corporate jobs, leaning on generative AI and Zoox’s 10,000 robotaxis to replace drivers. Meanwhile, Zoom’s Eric Yuan shrugs off work-life balance, saying leaders live for work and family, but sees AI pushing Gen Z toward three-day workweeks. Klarna’s CEO, Sebastian Siemiatkowski, not to be outdone, launches an AI hotline starring a digital him. Surely, AI Sebastian will be running interviews at Klarna soon, right? Tune in for insight.


Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction and Summer Vibes
  • 01:49 Current Events: Juneteenth and Global Chaos
  • 03:21 TikTok’s Staying Power
  • 05:10 Browser Dating: Privacy or Romance?
  • 08:08 Indeed’s New Market Squeeze
  • 08:25 Meta vs. OpenAI: The Poaching Wars
  • 24:32 Trump’s Economic Tightrope
  • 29:35 Immigration vs. Market Needs
  • 35:26 AI’s Job Displacement Threat
  • 45:33 Culture and Burnout
  • 50:23 The Infinite Workday


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