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Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.

In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with Michael Versteeg, the original champion of the Cocodona 250. They discuss the unique experiences of the inaugural race, the evolution of Cocodona over the years, and the challenges of multi-day endurance racing. Versteeg shares his personal connection to the race, the importance of sustainability in ultra running, and what keeps him coming back each year. The conversation also touches on the anticipation for the upcoming race and reflections on the journey of ultra running.