This is a minisode of Therapist Clubhouse. I wanted to give you this as an extra Mother's Day present. I was on my friend Rebecca Wong's podcast a little while ago. On her podcast, The Practice Of Being Seen, she takes deep dives with change makers. We took a dive into motherhood. I'm going to give you a little snippet of the conversation now, and if you want to hear the whole conversation and check out Rebecca's other wonderful episodes, you can find them all wherever you're listening to this. It's called The Practice Of Being Seen. This segment starts right when I'm talking about whether I need to produce this podcast every week or not, which is really about the rhythms of life. After this we go into race and privilege, creating a business, and finding time and energy for what matters.