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Dylan and Aaron catch up in the middle of the summer to reflect on where things are at - and how far we've come. Resetting our expectations - or "moving the goalposts" - based on how things have evolved over time. During this conversation, they put it into context for other media properties - and ask the real questions about where to go next.
Show Notes:
Freetrail: https://www.freetrail.com
Peak Life Experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku4dYpW6MG0
Billy Oppenheimer Newsletter: https://billyoppenheimer.com/
Quarter HP: https://www.youtube.com/@quarterhp
Joe Budden Network: https://www.patreon.com/cw/joebudden
Joe Budden NY Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/business/media/joe-budden-podcast-finances.html
Long Run Labs Podcast Collective: https://longrunlabs.substack.com/p/introducing-the-long-run-labs-podcast
Vox Media: https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/
Channels - Peter Kafka: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/channels-with-peter-kafka/id1080467174
Insta360: https://store.insta360.com/consumer?utm_term=INRV8SK
Substack Raises $100M: https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/17/substack-raises-100m-from-chernin-group-andreessen-horowitz-skims-ceo-and-more/
Red Bull Hardline: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/event-series/red-bull-hardline
BPC - Brand, Product, Content:
Kitworks: https://www.mykitworks.com
Kilian Jornet - 15 Years Stronger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faDan5z16qc
Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media
Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature
Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media
Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media
Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia
By Dylan Bowman & Aaron Lutze4.9
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Dylan and Aaron catch up in the middle of the summer to reflect on where things are at - and how far we've come. Resetting our expectations - or "moving the goalposts" - based on how things have evolved over time. During this conversation, they put it into context for other media properties - and ask the real questions about where to go next.
Show Notes:
Freetrail: https://www.freetrail.com
Peak Life Experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku4dYpW6MG0
Billy Oppenheimer Newsletter: https://billyoppenheimer.com/
Quarter HP: https://www.youtube.com/@quarterhp
Joe Budden Network: https://www.patreon.com/cw/joebudden
Joe Budden NY Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/business/media/joe-budden-podcast-finances.html
Long Run Labs Podcast Collective: https://longrunlabs.substack.com/p/introducing-the-long-run-labs-podcast
Vox Media: https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/
Channels - Peter Kafka: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/channels-with-peter-kafka/id1080467174
Insta360: https://store.insta360.com/consumer?utm_term=INRV8SK
Substack Raises $100M: https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/17/substack-raises-100m-from-chernin-group-andreessen-horowitz-skims-ceo-and-more/
Red Bull Hardline: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/event-series/red-bull-hardline
BPC - Brand, Product, Content:
Kitworks: https://www.mykitworks.com
Kilian Jornet - 15 Years Stronger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faDan5z16qc
Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media
Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature
Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media
Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media
Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

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