This week I chat to makeup artist turned TV presenter, Nadine Reid.Born to a Jamaican family, Nadine grew up in Handsworth, Birmingham.She came to live in Ireland 4 years ago and lives in Dublin with 94 year old Minnie and the new addition to the household, cockatiel Georgie.I asked her to be a guest on the podcast last summer as I’ve been a fan of hers since we met, but now felt like the right time to have a conversation.When we spoke last week about recording a podcast, she was apprehensive and I get why.She made it clear to me that unless I was prepared to read and educate myself on white privilege and her perspective as a black woman she would not be open to speaking to me and I fully respect and admire her position on this. She asked if I could read some books before we spoke and they are...Why I’m no longer talking to white people about race by Reni Eddo-LodgeAnd Me and White Supremacy by Layla F SaadI have been reading (or in my case listening!)and I know that these learnings or ‘unlearnings’ as the case may be won’t happen overnight.There is a long road ahead but I want to do better so I will keep reading and listening, having conversations and questioning myself and the world around me in the hope that change will happen for us all.Blaming or shaming will help no-one and every-one can play their part.In this episode we discuss white privilege, how colour-blindness isn’t helpful and what it actually means to be anti-racist.And I hope, like me, that you’ll listen to this podcast with an open mind and a willingness to explore yourself a little deeper.None of us are perfect or have all the answers but a desire to do better in our lives, will make a difference.You’ll find Nadine on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nadinereid/And please share this episode with friends or family if you enjoyed it; and if you can please take a moment to rate, review and hit subscribe, I’d really appreciate it.

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