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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Scott Forsgren (Better Health Guy) to unpack what actually helps people recover from complex chronic illness. Scott shares his 30-year journey that began with a tick bite, years of severe symptoms, and 45 doctors before finding answers in Lyme and co-infections, and later, mold exposure.

Together, they break down why “kill, kill, kill” protocols often fail, why symptoms overlap across mold, Lyme, metals, and immune dysregulation, and what Scott sees as the true foundations of healing: nervous system regulation, mast cell stability, detox and drainage support, and addressing the external environment.

They also dig into controversies around urine mycotoxin testing, ERMI interpretation, and why you may improve while living in exposure, but you typically won’t fully recover until the environment is addressed.

Chapter markers
00:00 Intro
00:44 Scott’s health story begins (tick bite, sudden symptoms)
02:47 First real breakthrough: Lyme and co-infections
04:51 What Scott would do differently
07:14 Moving beyond “kill, kill, kill”
10:03 Can symptoms tell you it’s mold?
12:20 Why we’ve never been sicker
17:00 Biggest mistakes after diagnosis
20:36 The foundational steps to healing
34:02 Can you heal while living in exposure?
38:33 Urine mycotoxin controversy
41:58 ERMI, HERTSMI-2, and interpretation
50:04 Mycotoxins, spores, fragments, and why “killing” is not enough
56:26 The biggest lie: the label
59:28 ILADS vs IDSA and what’s true on both sides
01:03:02 Where to find Scott + final hope message
01:06:10 Outro

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🔵 About Scott
Scott Forsgren, FDN-P is a health coach, blogger, podcaster, health writer, and advocate. He is the editor and founder of BetterHealthGuy.com, where he shares his nearly 30 year journey through the world of Lyme disease, mold illness, and the myriad of factors that chronic illness often entails. 

His podcast "BetterHealthGuy Blogcasts" interviews many of the leaders in the field and is available on his web site, BetterHealthGuy.com, and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, and Odysee.  He has been interviewed on numerous podcasts and has lectured on his recovery from chronic illness at conferences and on several online summits.  He has written for the Townsend Letter and other publications. 

He is the co-founder of The Forum for Integrative Medicine which hosts an annual conference bringing together some of the top integrative practitioners to share practical tools for treating complex, chronic illness. 

He serves on the Board of Directors of LymeLight Foundation which provides treatment grants to children and young adults recovering from Lyme disease. 

Today, Scott is grateful for his current state of health and all that he has learned on this life-changing journey.

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If you’ve been sick for months or years with no clear answers, this episode is for you.

Dr. Eric Potter of Sanctuary Functional Medicine joins Michael Rubino to discuss how mold exposure impacts the immune system, brain function, hormones, fertility, and long-term health.

While conventional medicine often focuses on respiratory symptoms, mold illness can present as multi-system dysfunction: brain fog, chronic fatigue, food sensitivities, depression, strange medication reactions, recurrent infections, infertility, and autoimmune issues.

Dr. Potter explains:
• Why mold is missed in traditional medicine
• How mold suppresses immune function
• Why detox takes time
• Why you cannot fully heal while still in exposure
• How mold affects fertility and hormone balance
• The connection between mold and longevity

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Dr. Eric Potter graduated from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine before completing dual training in Internal Medicine and Pediatrics. Over the years, he has cared for patients of all ages and backgrounds, continually expanding his medical knowledge and clinical skills. He later dedicated hundreds of hours to earn his Institute for Functional Medicine (IFM) Certification, placing him among a select group of practitioners in the region who have completed the full program. At Sanctuary, he combines the best of conventional medicine with the best of functional medicine to deliver truly comprehensive care.

Beyond his extensive training, Dr. Potter has personally experienced the challenges of today’s healthcare system—both as a physician and as a family member supporting loved ones through illness. These experiences fueled his desire to create a better model of care. By stepping outside the insurance-driven system, he is able to offer longer visits, whole-person care, and unbiased recommendations with wholesale pricing on labs and supplements. Practicing functional medicine enables him to uncover root causes rather than simply manage symptoms, serving as a trusted advocate for patients seeking a healthier, more abundant life.

Outside the clinic, Dr. Potter is married and a father of six, with a family story shaped by God’s providence, including the blessing of adoption. He enjoys running, reading, hiking, and spending quality time with his family.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino talks with fertility specialist Dr. Robert Kiltz about why chronic illness and infertility feel more common than ever. Dr. Kiltz shares his perspective on modern nutrition advice, the role of inflammation, and why he believes animal fat, eating less often, and fasting can be powerful tools for health.

They also dive into indoor air quality, mold, and how today’s sealed homes and HVAC systems can trap particles and microbes, making it harder to feel your best. Dr. Kiltz explains why mindset, faith, and visualization matter, especially for women navigating infertility.

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Dr. Kiltz is the Founder and Owner  of CNY Fertility, one of the largest and most innovative fertility practices in the country. Dr. Kiltz is a Diplomat of the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and Fellowship trained and Board Certified in Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility. He spent more than two decades helping families grow by developing cutting-edge approaches to fertility grounded in Western medicine and supported by practices of holistic medicine. 

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If you have been told “your labs look fine” but you still feel inflamed, exhausted, anxious, or stuck, this episode is for you.

Michael Rubino sits down with health and fitness coach Danae Marino to talk about why so many people stay sick even when they are doing “all the right things.” Danae shares her personal story of battling asthma, chronic allergies, gut issues, and skin problems from childhood into adulthood, and why traditional medicine never gave her real answers.

00:00 Welcome + Danae’s mission: diagnosis is not destiny
02:05 “We have never been sicker” and why exposures are worse now
03:55 Medical system frustration: doctor hopping and gaslighting
05:00 Why weight does not equal health
06:05 You cannot outwork poor immunity, gut issues, hormones, mold
07:20 Habits that make workouts and nutrition actually work
08:03 Michael’s asthma story and environment connection
09:09 Danae’s childhood symptoms: asthma, allergies, gut issues, skin
10:10 “Your labs look good” but you feel terrible
11:28 Coaches helped identify mold exposure as a missing piece
12:23 Michael’s “ice cream shake” doctor advice story
15:09 Danae’s “waffles and ice cream for breakfast” story
16:43 Why good advice gets labeled “woo woo”
18:26 Rock bottom moment: sick and tired of being sick and tired
19:16 Day one lifestyle shifts: whole foods, less eating out, smart training
21:10 Thoughts, words, beliefs, and healing mindset
22:19 Biggest controversy: meds manage symptoms, do not create healing
26:58 Biggest lie: “you will never get better”
27:49 Phone interruption and restart (edit point)
28:15 Periodontal disease example and proving “lifelong” wrong
30:21 What medicine needs: lifestyle first, exposures, basics, not just labs
33:07 What clients struggle with: no connection between food and symptoms
34:45 Weight loss vs healing: why dieting an unhealthy body keeps you stuck
36:40 Mold in NJ/NY and people not realizing exposure
37:49 The Dust Test introduction and why seeing results matters
40:06 The “perfect storm”: trauma, mold, diet, hydration, habits
41:16 Specialty testing: Dutch, OAT, mycotoxins and why it matters
44:06 “Test, don’t guess” and using data to find patterns
45:23 Where to find Danae + her app and programs
47:00 Wrap up

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino talks with Dr. Alex, a chiropractor who approaches chronic symptoms through immune response, nervous system function, nutrition, and environmental triggers. They unpack common root causes behind headaches, brain fog, fatigue, hormone issues, and histamine imbalance, plus why so many people are told “your labs look normal” while still feeling awful.

They also explore how mold exposure can affect different people in the same home in completely different ways, why fixing the environment is often step one, and how detox should start with foundational pathways like digestion, hydration, sweating, and lymphatic support. Dr. Alex shares how he uses testing to personalize protocols and why there should always be a plan, not just a prescription.

If you are dealing with chronic symptoms, suspected mold exposure, histamine issues, or fertility concerns, this conversation will help you understand what to look at next.

00:00 Intro: Michael welcomes Dr. Alex
00:30 Dr. Alex background: pain, spine, neuro issues, immune response
01:30 Why people seek help and why symptom chasing fails
02:10 Headaches: structural causes vs histamine and hormones
03:00 Histamine explained in simple terms and why it matters
04:20 Why Dr. Alex moved into a functional approach
05:30 Chronic inflammation from “healthy” foods and hidden triggers
07:10 “Test, do not guess” for the body and the home
09:00 Never Been Sicker: rising prescriptions and chronic illness
10:10 Why chiropractors do not prescribe and the herbal foundation
11:20 “Where is the plan to get people off meds?”
13:00 No quick fixes: the effort required to actually heal
15:20 Nutrition confusion and why bio individuality wins
16:30 Same house, different symptoms: immune response differences
19:20 Environmental toxins are involved for most patients
21:00 Michael explains hidden mold drivers and building science basics
23:00 Why you cannot heal fully while still living in exposure
24:05 Infertility, hormones, and mold disruption
26:00 Using the Dust Test and pairing it with body testing
28:00 How Dr. Alex realized mold was part of stubborn cases
31:15 Biggest lie: “You’ll be on meds for life” and “labs are normal”
36:00 Care matters: rushed appointments vs real root cause time
38:30 Detox foundations: lymph, hydration, movement, sweating
40:45 Why random binders can backfire if pathways are blocked
43:00 Controversies: normalizing toxins, fluoride, root canals
45:00 Where to find Dr. Alex and his practice

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🔵 MEET DR. ALEX JUSZCZYNSKI, DC
Dr. Alex was born and raised in Des Plaines, Illinois. He is a bilingual practitioner, fluent in English and Polish. Dr. Alex completed his Doctorate of Chiropractic from Logan University in 2022. His journey into Chiropractic began when he witnessed his mother’s quick and complete  recovery under chiropractic care after a minor car accident. This sparked his interest in chiropractic care, where the nervous system is properly addressed in order to promote healing, opposed to standard symptom management.

Dr Alex takes a personalized approach to the Wellness Way where he combines Chiropractic, nutritional guidance, herbal medicine, and lifestyle changes that enhance the health and vitality of the patient. His focus is on healing the digestive system through proper lymphatic elimination and providing tools to reduce overall toxin exposure. 

In his down time Dr. Alex enjoys discovering new music, exploring the beauty of central Florida, and cooking new recipes with his family.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with naturopathic doctor and clinical nutrition expert Dr. Anne Dunev to unpack why modern life may be making us chronically unwell despite all our medical “advancements.”

From sealed buildings and poor indoor air quality to synthetic chemicals, processed food, and a healthcare system that prioritizes symptom suppression over prevention, Dr. Dunev explains how our “analog” bodies are struggling in an increasingly artificial world.

Dr. Dunev shares her perspective on root-cause medicine, immune resilience, and what individuals can do to take back control of their health in a world full of competing information and commercial interests.

If you’ve ever felt like something is off despite being told your labs are “normal,” this conversation will challenge the conventional narrative and encourage you to think differently about what real health means.

Chapters:
00:00 – 01:10 Are We Sicker Than Ever?
00:44 – 02:40 “Everything Is Making Us Sick”
01:10 – 03:55 Profit Over Prevention
03:55 – 06:10 Sunlight, Screens & Movement
04:02 – 06:05 Sealed Homes & Mold Risk
06:05 – 08:05 Fresh Air vs Indoor Living
10:21 – 13:50 Symptoms vs Root Cause
13:50 – 16:10 Polypharmacy Problem
16:10 – 20:25 Band-Aid Medicine
20:25 – 27:10 Chemicals & Industry Influence
30:53 – 33:45 Oxygen, Sugar & Cancer Risk
35:02 – 38:40 Sick Care Business Model
38:52 – 41:15 “It’s Not Just Genetics”
44:37 – 53:55 Vaccine Debate
53:55 – 01:00:30 Stem Cell Activation
01:00:30 – End Teaching & Final Thoughts

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🔵 About Dr. Dunev
Anne has a BS in Health Sciences from Ohio State University, a Naturopathic Medicine degree(her doctorate  thesis was The History of Mind/Body Healing) training in Herbal Medicine, and a post-doctorate in Applied Clinical Nutrition from the Southern California University of Health Sciences. She is a Kinesiologist and is trained in Functional Medicine. Anne is a life-long student of natural medicine, herbology, homeopathy, and nutrition. She has helped thousands of patients in the US and England improve their health and wellbeing. Anne taught at the College of Naturopathic Medicine in London and has appeared on 150 radio and television programs. With a focus on women's health, digestion,  metabolic function, and anti-aging issues, her Well Body Clinic in California offers patients throughout the Los Angeles area effective natural health services.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino talks with functional medicine expert Dr. Will Cole about why chronic symptoms are becoming the norm and why “common” doesn’t mean normal. Dr. Cole breaks down the epigenetic mismatch between our biology and the modern world, including food quality, environmental toxins (like mold), and chronic stress and trauma.

They also discuss the “big bucket vs small bucket” concept, why some people are hit harder by exposures, and why conventional medicine often misses the root causes behind fatigue, anxiety, inflammation, and metabolic dysfunction. Dr. Cole shares what he’s been saying for years that is now mainstream, plus what he’s building next with Longevity RX.

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Dr. Will Cole is a leading functional medicine expert who consults people around the globe, starting one of the first functional medicine telehealth centers in the world over a decade ago. Named one of the top 50 functional and integrative doctors in the nation, Dr. Will Cole provides a functional medicine approach for thyroid issues, autoimmune conditions, hormonal imbalances, digestive disorders, and brain problems. He is also the host of the popular The Art Of Being Well podcast and the New York Times bestselling author of Intuitive Fasting, Ketotarian, The Inflammation Spectrum and Gut Feelings.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Evan Hirsch to break down what he calls the “Toxic Five,” the root drivers he sees behind long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome: heavy metals, chemicals, molds, infections, and nervous system dysfunction (trauma).

Dr. Hirsch explains where common exposures come from (including mercury from dental fillings and higher mercury levels in larger fish), why toxic burden can start before birth, and how chemicals and plastics accumulate over time. He also shares why testing can be imperfect and why relying too heavily on labs can leave people stuck, plus what he believes actually moves the needle when someone has chronic fatigue or long COVID symptoms.

They also dive into mold, why proper remediation matters, and why incomplete remediation can keep people in a cycle of re-exposure and stalled progress.

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Toxic Five
02:53 Understanding Heavy Metals and Their Sources
05:47 Chemical Exposures and Their Impact
09:01 Nervous System Dysfunction and Trauma
11:56 The Role of Infections in Chronic Illness
15:10 The Importance of Testing and Treatment
18:07 The Impact of Mold on Health
21:12 The Process of Mold Remediation
23:48 Chronic Fatigue and Its Assessment
26:55 The Energy MD Program Overview
30:05 Mindset and Its Role in Healing
33:11 Conspiracies and Truths in Medicine
36:05 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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🔵 About Evan H. Hirsch, MD
Evan H. Hirsch, MD, also known as EnergyMD, specializes in helping people with Long COVID and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) resolve their symptoms naturally so they can get back to living their best lives. After recovering from his own five-year battle with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, he created the EnergyMD Method, a research-informed and clinically tested four-step process that addresses the “Toxic Five,” the real root causes of fatigue. Through his best-selling book, podcast, and virtual program serving clients across the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand, Dr. Hirsch has helped thousands of people regain their energy and return to the activities they love. He has been featured on TV, podcasts, and summits, and when he is not supporting clients, you can find him singing musicals, dancing hip hop, learning languages, and traveling with his family.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino interviews healthcare entrepreneur Vivienne Reign about why modern “healthcare” often functions as sick care and why so many people feel worse than ever despite medical advances.

Vivienne breaks down the insurance model, the mindset shift required to pursue real wellness, and the difference between proactive biohacking vs reactive medical intervention. They also dive deep into red light therapy, including what makes a device legitimate (wavelength, dose, distance, power, and FDA clearance), how to avoid low-quality products, and how red light can support circulation, inflammation, pain, and neuropathy outcomes.

This conversation also covers pelvic floor dysfunction in men and women, why common advice like kegels misses key involuntary muscles, and how improving pelvic floor function can impact sleep quality, incontinence, and long-term quality of life.

If you feel like you pay for insurance but still have to figure out your health on your own, this episode will help you rethink the system and take back control.

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Vivienne is a healthcare entrepreneur and founder focused on making science-backed wellness and innovative treatments more accessible. With a background in sales and building high-performing clinics, she helps bridge the gap between what patients need and what the traditional system delivers, with an emphasis on outcomes, education, and proactive health.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Paul O’Malley, a holistic, reconstructive, biomimetic cosmetic dentist, to unpack the “silent epidemic” impacting millions worldwide: gum disease and tooth decay.

Dr. O’Malley explains why oral health is not just about teeth, it is about the oral microbiome, balance, and how everyday products can influence the ecosystem in your mouth. They discuss why the “kill everything” approach can backfire, how certain mouthwashes may disrupt beneficial bacteria, and why restoring balance matters.

Topics covered:
1. The silent epidemic of gum disease and chronic tooth decay
2. What the oral microbiome is and why balance matters
3. Mouthwash, bacteria, and the nitric oxide pathway
4. Environmental parallels: “nuke it” culture vs targeted support
5. Mercury amalgam fillings and why safe removal protocols matter
6. Fluoride discussion and mineral based alternatives like hydroxyapatite
7. Oral probiotics, remineralization, and practical tools for healthier breath and gums

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