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What if one of the biggest reasons people stay stuck in chronic illness recovery is mold?

In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with integrative medicine practitioner Michelle McKeon to talk about the overlap between mold exposure, Lyme disease, mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), long COVID, immune dysregulation, and personalized treatment.

Michelle shares why more patients today need customized care, how mold can suppress the immune system and complicate recovery, and why treatment order matters so much for sensitive people. Michael also explains why proper home investigation and remediation are essential if someone wants real, sustainable progress.

In this episode, they cover:
- Why mold is often a major missing piece in recovery
- The connection between mold, Lyme, and MCAS
- Why some people flare from supplements and detox protocols
- How long COVID and environmental exposure may overlap
- Why generalized testing and treatment often miss the full picture
- How personalized care can help sensitive patients move forward
If you’ve been dealing with mold illness, chronic inflammation, Lyme, long COVID, or MCAS, this episode connects many of the dots.

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:31 Michelle introduces her background and work
2:54 Personalized medicine and personalized remediation
4:16 Why some patients need a more customized approach
5:16 FMT and gut microbiome support for sensitive patients
7:08 Blood cleansing therapies and lingering inflammatory burdens
11:28 Michael asks about long COVID and indoor air quality
13:10 Toxic bucket theory, mold exposure, and MCAS
15:16 Why mold is a major factor for so many chronic illness patients
16:58 The problem with poor inspections and bad remediation
18:42 Why drainage pathways and sequencing matter in recovery
21:18 Michael explains why center-of-room air sampling is flawed
24:08 Why thorough remediation matters
26:25 Why more patients now understand mold is serious
28:13 Michelle shares her own experience with humidity and VOCs
30:48 Looking at the body and home holistically
31:14 The Lyme and mold connection
34:47 Why aggressive treatment can backfire in sensitive patients
36:58 Nervous system regulation and trauma in chronic illness
37:23 The emotional cost of getting dismissed by doctors
38:42 Do you need to treat mold before Lyme?
40:38 Mold’s impact on psychiatric symptoms and brain inflammation
42:56 Mold, anxiety, depression, and root cause medicine
47:00 What MCAS is and why it matters
53:24 Michael asks the biggest lie Michelle has uncovered
54:25 Michelle says the biggest lie is that mold is not that serious
55:58 Michael explains why “mold is everywhere” is misleading
1:05:22 Wrap-up and where to find Michelle

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🔵 About Michelle :
Michelle McKeon is the owner of The Lyme Specialist, a Licensed Integrative Nutritionist, and Certified Mold Practitioner specializing in tick-borne infections, environmental toxins, gut health, and inflammatory conditions. After overcoming her own severe battle with Lyme disease and co-infections, Michelle went on to earn her master’s degree in Human Nutrition and now helps clients address root causes including mold mycotoxins, infections, genetics, and detox challenges. She is also an author, speaker, and advocate for people navigating complex chronic illness.

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Why are chronic illness, obesity, and metabolic issues rising faster than ever?
In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with health coach Nick Howarth to break down the root causes behind modern health struggles. With over 15 years of experience coaching thousands of clients, Nick explains why processed food, metabolic dysfunction, and lifestyle habits are driving many of today’s health issues.

They discuss:
- Why processed food is a major contributor to disease
- How metabolism impacts energy, weight, and hormones
- The connection between gut health and immune function
- Why symptoms are often misunderstood
- Simple steps to start improving your health today

If you’ve ever wondered why so many people feel tired, inflamed, or stuck in their health journey, this episode offers a clear and practical perspective.

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:29 Nick introduces himself and his background
1:32 Why we’ve “never been sicker”
1:56 The biggest root cause: processed food
3:01 Food vs air vs water discussion
6:07 Root cause vs symptom-based health
8:12 Gut health and immune system explained
10:49 Stress and modern lifestyle impact
12:17 Metabolism and how it drives health
12:25 Client story reversing diabetes and avoiding surgery
15:09 Why diet is overcomplicated today
17:32 Ancestral diet and simplicity
20:01 Nutrient depletion and need for supplementation
21:04 Biggest lies in the health industry
23:01 Controversies around keto
25:32 Metabolic health and mental health
28:12 First steps to improve metabolic health
29:07 How to work with Nick
33:04 Closing thoughts on health in the US

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🔵 About Nick:
Nick Howarth is an international metabolic and endocrine reset coach, author and researcher with 15 years of experience helping thousands of people improve their health through metabolic, nutrition-based strategies. As the founder of Best Body Health Coach (BBHC), Nick focuses on addressing root causes rather than symptoms, with particular success in helping clients reverse insulin resistance, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and chronic inflammatory conditions.

His work emphasizes real food, mineral balance, metabolic health, and lifestyle correction, cutting through nutrition myths and fads, and industry-driven misinformation. Nick’s practical, evidence-based approach has reached a global audience, guiding individuals across multiple countries toward sustainable health and long-term vitality.

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What if one of the biggest missing pieces in chronic illness recovery is gut health?

In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Craig Brockie to discuss the connection between gut health, mold exposure, detox, fermented foods, and chronic symptoms. They explore how antibiotics, toxic load, poor indoor air quality, and microbiome imbalance may all contribute to ongoing health issues, and why healing may require looking at both the body and the environment.

Craig shares his personal health story, why gut repair became such a major focus for him, and how fermented foods and probiotics became a key part of his routine. He also opens up about discovering significant mold growth in his own HVAC system and how that exposure affected his household.

In this conversation, they cover:
- How gut health affects mood, immunity, and inflammation
- Why mold and toxic exposure may disrupt the gut
- Signs your gut may be struggling
- The role of fermented foods and probiotics
- Fasting, detox, and other wellness tools
- Why some people stay sick even when they are trying to heal

If you have been dealing with chronic symptoms and feel like something is still being missed, this episode offers a broader look at how internal health and environmental health may be working together.

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0:00 Intro
0:07 Craig explains his book Ultimate Health and says it was removed from Amazon
1:23 Why Craig believes modern healthcare is focused on sick care, not well care
2:25 Craig shares his own history with anxiety, candida, and leaky gut
3:18 The gut’s role in serotonin, GLP-1, and mental health
4:17 Why Craig believes gut health should be a major priority
6:16 Michael connects mold exposure and toxic load to gut health
6:55 Practical ways people can start improving gut health
8:27 Why Craig believes his message has spread so widely online
9:43 Craig explains fasting and why he sees it as a powerful healing tool
10:54 The conversation shifts into bigger health system critiques and controversial claims
16:15 Why Craig prioritizes sunlight and natural light exposure
18:40 Peptides, blue light, and Craig’s wellness routine
20:52 Craig introduces his probiotic yogurt maker
22:57 How homemade probiotic yogurt works and why he prefers it over store-bought options
24:51 Fermented foods, kefir, sauerkraut, and gut support
26:55 Common symptoms of poor gut health
29:20 How gut health may affect longevity
31:37 The gut-brain connection and mood
32:59 Controversies Craig says turned out to be true
34:58 Michael shares corruption he witnessed in restoration and mold remediation
36:59 Craig shares discovering severe mold in his HVAC system
39:53 Why healing requires both a clean environment and internal support
41:10 Where to find Craig’s resources and product

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🔵 About Craig
Craig is a disruptive health author and brand owner. His controversial book was censored by Amazon after exposing Big Pharma's dirty secrets and safer alternatives to toxic drugs and surgery. Craig is best known for his viral X threads and the simple machine he developed to make your your own probiotics at home found here: 

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After losing his health as a young man, Craig spent the last three decades traveling the world, researching advanced health and performance-enhancing technologies. His purpose is to help millions solve the cause of their symptoms and achieve ultimate health.

Craig grew up in Fort Frances, a small border town just north of Minnesota in Ontario, Canada. The area is known for its beautiful lakes and nature. His mom and dad are now retired but were small business owners for decades, instilling in Craig the

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Ariana Hakman, founder of LunaFit, to talk about sustainable health, fitness, and the daily habits that support real long-term wellness.

Ariana shares how becoming a new mom inspired her to leave corporate life and build a wellness company focused on helping real people get real results. Today LunaFit includes a gym, meal prep service, supplements, and a fitness app designed around five pillars of health: sleep, steps, hydration, nutrition, and fitness.

Throughout the conversation, Michael and Ariana discuss why modern nutrition advice can feel so confusing, why extreme diets often fail, and why balanced, sustainable habits are key to improving overall health.
The episode also explores an often overlooked factor in health and recovery: environmental exposure. Ariana shares her personal experience discovering mold in her home HVAC system and the unexpected ways it affected her sleep, breathing, and overall well-being.

Michael explains how indoor air quality, sleep quality, hydration, and movement all play important roles in the body’s ability to recover, detox, and perform at its best.

If you're trying to improve your health but feel overwhelmed by conflicting advice, this conversation offers a practical perspective on building habits that actually last.

00:00 Introduction to Ariana Hackman and LunaFit
01:14 How Ariana started her health and fitness business
03:23 Why nutrition advice is so confusing today
04:05 Ariana’s approach to balanced nutrition
05:59 Body types and sustainable weight loss
07:30 Why movement outside the gym matters
09:09 Cold plunges and recovery benefits
10:29 Inside the LunaFit health and fitness app
12:20 Why diet and exercise matter for detox
13:33 The importance of hydration for flushing toxins
14:42 Ariana discovers mold in her home HVAC system
17:13 How mold exposure affected sleep and health
18:12 Realizing something was wrong with the home environment
20:35 Mold exposure and athletic performance
21:37 How mold could impact clients’ fitness progress
23:37 Why Ariana launched a healthy meal prep company
24:49 Biggest myths in the fitness industry
26:24 The problem with weight loss drugs and shortcuts
27:36 Health controversies in the diet industry
28:17 Why Ariana disagrees with the keto diet
29:59 Where to find the LunaFit app and free guide
31:07 Episode wrap-up

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🔵 About Ariana
Ariana is the founder and COO of LunaFit, a health and fitness brand revolutionizing wellness through technology, nutrition, fitness, and community. Together with her husband Rich and a dedicated team, she has built multiple businesses, including a gym, a meal prep company, a supplement company, and an innovative app launching in January. Ariana’s mission is to empower busy individuals to achieve their health goals through simplified solutions and meaningful connections. A dynamic entrepreneur and speaker, she shares her journey of resilience and purpose-driven growth while championing her team’s collective vision.

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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/lunafitapp/ 

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Scott Forsgren (Better Health Guy) to unpack what actually helps people recover from complex chronic illness. Scott shares his 30-year journey that began with a tick bite, years of severe symptoms, and 45 doctors before finding answers in Lyme and co-infections, and later, mold exposure.

Together, they break down why “kill, kill, kill” protocols often fail, why symptoms overlap across mold, Lyme, metals, and immune dysregulation, and what Scott sees as the true foundations of healing: nervous system regulation, mast cell stability, detox and drainage support, and addressing the external environment.

They also dig into controversies around urine mycotoxin testing, ERMI interpretation, and why you may improve while living in exposure, but you typically won’t fully recover until the environment is addressed.

Chapter markers
00:00 Intro
00:44 Scott’s health story begins (tick bite, sudden symptoms)
02:47 First real breakthrough: Lyme and co-infections
04:51 What Scott would do differently
07:14 Moving beyond “kill, kill, kill”
10:03 Can symptoms tell you it’s mold?
12:20 Why we’ve never been sicker
17:00 Biggest mistakes after diagnosis
20:36 The foundational steps to healing
34:02 Can you heal while living in exposure?
38:33 Urine mycotoxin controversy
41:58 ERMI, HERTSMI-2, and interpretation
50:04 Mycotoxins, spores, fragments, and why “killing” is not enough
56:26 The biggest lie: the label
59:28 ILADS vs IDSA and what’s true on both sides
01:03:02 Where to find Scott + final hope message
01:06:10 Outro

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🔵 About Scott
Scott Forsgren, FDN-P is a health coach, blogger, podcaster, health writer, and advocate. He is the editor and founder of BetterHealthGuy.com, where he shares his nearly 30 year journey through the world of Lyme disease, mold illness, and the myriad of factors that chronic illness often entails. 

His podcast "BetterHealthGuy Blogcasts" interviews many of the leaders in the field and is available on his web site, BetterHealthGuy.com, and on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, and Odysee.  He has been interviewed on numerous podcasts and has lectured on his recovery from chronic illness at conferences and on several online summits.  He has written for the Townsend Letter and other publications. 

He is the co-founder of The Forum for Integrative Medicine which hosts an annual conference bringing together some of the top integrative practitioners to share practical tools for treating complex, chronic illness. 

He serves on the Board of Directors of LymeLight Foundation which provides treatment grants to children and young adults recovering from Lyme disease. 

Today, Scott is grateful for his current state of health and all that he has learned on this life-changing journey.

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If you’ve been sick for months or years with no clear answers, this episode is for you.

Dr. Eric Potter of Sanctuary Functional Medicine joins Michael Rubino to discuss how mold exposure impacts the immune system, brain function, hormones, fertility, and long-term health.

While conventional medicine often focuses on respiratory symptoms, mold illness can present as multi-system dysfunction: brain fog, chronic fatigue, food sensitivities, depression, strange medication reactions, recurrent infections, infertility, and autoimmune issues.

Dr. Potter explains:
• Why mold is missed in traditional medicine
• How mold suppresses immune function
• Why detox takes time
• Why you cannot fully heal while still in exposure
• How mold affects fertility and hormone balance
• The connection between mold and longevity

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About Dr. Potter
Dr. Eric Potter graduated from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine before completing dual training in Internal Medicine and Pediatrics. Over the years, he has cared for patients of all ages and backgrounds, continually expanding his medical knowledge and clinical skills. He later dedicated hundreds of hours to earn his Institute for Functional Medicine (IFM) Certification, placing him among a select group of practitioners in the region who have completed the full program. At Sanctuary, he combines the best of conventional medicine with the best of functional medicine to deliver truly comprehensive care.

Beyond his extensive training, Dr. Potter has personally experienced the challenges of today’s healthcare system—both as a physician and as a family member supporting loved ones through illness. These experiences fueled his desire to create a better model of care. By stepping outside the insurance-driven system, he is able to offer longer visits, whole-person care, and unbiased recommendations with wholesale pricing on labs and supplements. Practicing functional medicine enables him to uncover root causes rather than simply manage symptoms, serving as a trusted advocate for patients seeking a healthier, more abundant life.

Outside the clinic, Dr. Potter is married and a father of six, with a family story shaped by God’s providence, including the blessing of adoption. He enjoys running, reading, hiking, and spending quality time with his family.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino talks with fertility specialist Dr. Robert Kiltz about why chronic illness and infertility feel more common than ever. Dr. Kiltz shares his perspective on modern nutrition advice, the role of inflammation, and why he believes animal fat, eating less often, and fasting can be powerful tools for health.

They also dive into indoor air quality, mold, and how today’s sealed homes and HVAC systems can trap particles and microbes, making it harder to feel your best. Dr. Kiltz explains why mindset, faith, and visualization matter, especially for women navigating infertility.

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Dr. Kiltz is the Founder and Owner  of CNY Fertility, one of the largest and most innovative fertility practices in the country. Dr. Kiltz is a Diplomat of the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and Fellowship trained and Board Certified in Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility. He spent more than two decades helping families grow by developing cutting-edge approaches to fertility grounded in Western medicine and supported by practices of holistic medicine. 

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If you have been told “your labs look fine” but you still feel inflamed, exhausted, anxious, or stuck, this episode is for you.

Michael Rubino sits down with health and fitness coach Danae Marino to talk about why so many people stay sick even when they are doing “all the right things.” Danae shares her personal story of battling asthma, chronic allergies, gut issues, and skin problems from childhood into adulthood, and why traditional medicine never gave her real answers.

00:00 Welcome + Danae’s mission: diagnosis is not destiny
02:05 “We have never been sicker” and why exposures are worse now
03:55 Medical system frustration: doctor hopping and gaslighting
05:00 Why weight does not equal health
06:05 You cannot outwork poor immunity, gut issues, hormones, mold
07:20 Habits that make workouts and nutrition actually work
08:03 Michael’s asthma story and environment connection
09:09 Danae’s childhood symptoms: asthma, allergies, gut issues, skin
10:10 “Your labs look good” but you feel terrible
11:28 Coaches helped identify mold exposure as a missing piece
12:23 Michael’s “ice cream shake” doctor advice story
15:09 Danae’s “waffles and ice cream for breakfast” story
16:43 Why good advice gets labeled “woo woo”
18:26 Rock bottom moment: sick and tired of being sick and tired
19:16 Day one lifestyle shifts: whole foods, less eating out, smart training
21:10 Thoughts, words, beliefs, and healing mindset
22:19 Biggest controversy: meds manage symptoms, do not create healing
26:58 Biggest lie: “you will never get better”
27:49 Phone interruption and restart (edit point)
28:15 Periodontal disease example and proving “lifelong” wrong
30:21 What medicine needs: lifestyle first, exposures, basics, not just labs
33:07 What clients struggle with: no connection between food and symptoms
34:45 Weight loss vs healing: why dieting an unhealthy body keeps you stuck
36:40 Mold in NJ/NY and people not realizing exposure
37:49 The Dust Test introduction and why seeing results matters
40:06 The “perfect storm”: trauma, mold, diet, hydration, habits
41:16 Specialty testing: Dutch, OAT, mycotoxins and why it matters
44:06 “Test, don’t guess” and using data to find patterns
45:23 Where to find Danae + her app and programs
47:00 Wrap up

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino talks with Dr. Alex, a chiropractor who approaches chronic symptoms through immune response, nervous system function, nutrition, and environmental triggers. They unpack common root causes behind headaches, brain fog, fatigue, hormone issues, and histamine imbalance, plus why so many people are told “your labs look normal” while still feeling awful.

They also explore how mold exposure can affect different people in the same home in completely different ways, why fixing the environment is often step one, and how detox should start with foundational pathways like digestion, hydration, sweating, and lymphatic support. Dr. Alex shares how he uses testing to personalize protocols and why there should always be a plan, not just a prescription.

If you are dealing with chronic symptoms, suspected mold exposure, histamine issues, or fertility concerns, this conversation will help you understand what to look at next.

00:00 Intro: Michael welcomes Dr. Alex
00:30 Dr. Alex background: pain, spine, neuro issues, immune response
01:30 Why people seek help and why symptom chasing fails
02:10 Headaches: structural causes vs histamine and hormones
03:00 Histamine explained in simple terms and why it matters
04:20 Why Dr. Alex moved into a functional approach
05:30 Chronic inflammation from “healthy” foods and hidden triggers
07:10 “Test, do not guess” for the body and the home
09:00 Never Been Sicker: rising prescriptions and chronic illness
10:10 Why chiropractors do not prescribe and the herbal foundation
11:20 “Where is the plan to get people off meds?”
13:00 No quick fixes: the effort required to actually heal
15:20 Nutrition confusion and why bio individuality wins
16:30 Same house, different symptoms: immune response differences
19:20 Environmental toxins are involved for most patients
21:00 Michael explains hidden mold drivers and building science basics
23:00 Why you cannot heal fully while still living in exposure
24:05 Infertility, hormones, and mold disruption
26:00 Using the Dust Test and pairing it with body testing
28:00 How Dr. Alex realized mold was part of stubborn cases
31:15 Biggest lie: “You’ll be on meds for life” and “labs are normal”
36:00 Care matters: rushed appointments vs real root cause time
38:30 Detox foundations: lymph, hydration, movement, sweating
40:45 Why random binders can backfire if pathways are blocked
43:00 Controversies: normalizing toxins, fluoride, root canals
45:00 Where to find Dr. Alex and his practice

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🔵 MEET DR. ALEX JUSZCZYNSKI, DC
Dr. Alex was born and raised in Des Plaines, Illinois. He is a bilingual practitioner, fluent in English and Polish. Dr. Alex completed his Doctorate of Chiropractic from Logan University in 2022. His journey into Chiropractic began when he witnessed his mother’s quick and complete  recovery under chiropractic care after a minor car accident. This sparked his interest in chiropractic care, where the nervous system is properly addressed in order to promote healing, opposed to standard symptom management.

Dr Alex takes a personalized approach to the Wellness Way where he combines Chiropractic, nutritional guidance, herbal medicine, and lifestyle changes that enhance the health and vitality of the patient. His focus is on healing the digestive system through proper lymphatic elimination and providing tools to reduce overall toxin exposure. 

In his down time Dr. Alex enjoys discovering new music, exploring the beauty of central Florida, and cooking new recipes with his family.

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with naturopathic doctor and clinical nutrition expert Dr. Anne Dunev to unpack why modern life may be making us chronically unwell despite all our medical “advancements.”

From sealed buildings and poor indoor air quality to synthetic chemicals, processed food, and a healthcare system that prioritizes symptom suppression over prevention, Dr. Dunev explains how our “analog” bodies are struggling in an increasingly artificial world.

Dr. Dunev shares her perspective on root-cause medicine, immune resilience, and what individuals can do to take back control of their health in a world full of competing information and commercial interests.

If you’ve ever felt like something is off despite being told your labs are “normal,” this conversation will challenge the conventional narrative and encourage you to think differently about what real health means.

Chapters:
00:00 – 01:10 Are We Sicker Than Ever?
00:44 – 02:40 “Everything Is Making Us Sick”
01:10 – 03:55 Profit Over Prevention
03:55 – 06:10 Sunlight, Screens & Movement
04:02 – 06:05 Sealed Homes & Mold Risk
06:05 – 08:05 Fresh Air vs Indoor Living
10:21 – 13:50 Symptoms vs Root Cause
13:50 – 16:10 Polypharmacy Problem
16:10 – 20:25 Band-Aid Medicine
20:25 – 27:10 Chemicals & Industry Influence
30:53 – 33:45 Oxygen, Sugar & Cancer Risk
35:02 – 38:40 Sick Care Business Model
38:52 – 41:15 “It’s Not Just Genetics”
44:37 – 53:55 Vaccine Debate
53:55 – 01:00:30 Stem Cell Activation
01:00:30 – End Teaching & Final Thoughts

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🔵 About Dr. Dunev
Anne has a BS in Health Sciences from Ohio State University, a Naturopathic Medicine degree(her doctorate  thesis was The History of Mind/Body Healing) training in Herbal Medicine, and a post-doctorate in Applied Clinical Nutrition from the Southern California University of Health Sciences. She is a Kinesiologist and is trained in Functional Medicine. Anne is a life-long student of natural medicine, herbology, homeopathy, and nutrition. She has helped thousands of patients in the US and England improve their health and wellbeing. Anne taught at the College of Naturopathic Medicine in London and has appeared on 150 radio and television programs. With a focus on women's health, digestion,  metabolic function, and anti-aging issues, her Well Body Clinic in California offers patients throughout the Los Angeles area effective natural health services.

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