In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Rachel Varga to discuss how mold exposure can impact the body including triggering skin issues. She’s been helping her clients for years struggling with this issue and is a huge part of the community advocating for change and increased awareness across the world about how our indoor environments affect health.

Rachel Varga BScN, RN, CANS is a Double Board Certified Aesthetic Nurse Specialist since 2011 with over 20,000 procedures performed, an international clinical trainer for other Physicians and Nurses, celebrity skin expert featured by Dave Asprey, JJ Virgin, Wade Lightheart, Naveen Jain, Dr. Kellyann Petrucci, America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon Dr. Tony Youn and more! Rachel is an international speaker and a 5 time academically published award-winning author in the field of regenerative and aesthetic nursing as well as an executive board member and peer reviewer for USA-based Plastic and Aesthetic Nursing Journal, a regular contributor to the UK-based Journal of Aesthetic Nursing and monthly contributor to the Best Holistic Life Magazine.

In this episode, they dive into:

1:45: Vargas explains her history with mold, including how her dad used to be a carpenter. Her prior knowledge is what started her down the path of healing clients who are experiencing skin issues related to mold exposure.

5:15: She details how she determines whether or not she should bring up mold as a possible underlying trigger for skin issues and other chronic symptoms. As a friend of Dave Asprey, she also has a wealth of knowledge to pull from in helping clients who are suffering from exposure.

8:15: Vargas goes through the "toxic bucket" theory and why she thinks it’s a great analogy for explaining why exposure to things like mold can cause problems. As she explains, the toxins entering the body can tip the bucket, triggering a wide range of symptoms. She goes through a few common symptoms she’s seen regarding the skin.

15:00: She shares how important it is to find practitioners that include environmental exposure in their medical decisions while attempting to help clients. With all of the things that can impact health, including mold, air quality, water, and EMFs, it’s incredibly important to include these in the wellness conversation.

23:15: Varga explains that it’s not all doom and gloom. There are industries and individuals evolving and bringing this issue to the table so that individuals worldwide can get the help that they need and deserve.

33:45: She shares how her views have been received and the increase in individuals looking to learn this new information and ideology regarding toxic buckets and chronic issues.

43:50: Varga explains the importance of taking care of your health and focusing on wellness. One aspect of this is removing contaminants like mold and mycotoxins from the skin through exfoliation and cleansing and maintaining healthy air quality while sleeping.

49:45: She details the lack of awareness and conversations regarding skincare for men and how important it is for everyone to take care of their skin. She goes through her experience treating men and the issues they come to her with.

58:00: Varga shares her personal experience of helping her husband, who is an athlete, live a healthier life and avoid toxic exposures, and how it has helped improve his performance.

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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Lauren Tessier, a Naturopathic Physician, mold illness specialist, and awareness advocate to discuss her experience in the field and her passion for helping people who are suffering from chronic illnesses due to toxic environments.

Dr. Lauren Tessier is a Naturopathic Physician licensed by the state of Vermont. Her practice, Life After Mold, uses a patient-centered approach to help those suffering from mold-related illness recover. Her approach is informed by her Naturopathic Medical education, in combination with Functional and Integrative Medicine.

As a Shoemaker Certified Physician, she specializes in the treatment of Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) as a result of exposure to mold and water-damaged buildings. She also specializes in the treatment of non-CIRS mold-related illness: mycotoxicosis, mold allergy and etc.

She travels around the United States, giving lectures regarding mold illness, and she operates as an indoor environmental health advisor for various companies. Additionally, she is the current President of ISEAI; a nonprofit dedicated to the advancement of medical knowledge surrounding Environmentally Acquired Illness, or EAI.

In this episode, they dive into:
1:30: Dr. Tessier explains how she got into the realm of medicine and treating mold illness. Her journey took her through the Shoemaker process, noticing how prevalent this issue is, creating treatments geared towards these affected patients, and joining ISEAI.

5:15: Dr. Tessier reveals how close mold toxicity is to her heart, including personal experiences and negative reactions from family members.

7:40: Dr. Tessier details how prevalent she believes mold toxicity and exposure are, and the growing awareness people are beginning to have about this issue. As she said, even the CDC is shining a light on how much this can negatively impact the health of those living in toxic spaces that have water damage and contamination.

12:00: Dr. Tessier explains how a paradigm shift is needed to bring greater awareness to water-damaged buildings, toxic environments, and chronic illness. From science to insurance coverage, the lack of representation and evidence is directly impacting affected individuals. One of the main issues, she said, is the difficulty in analyzing and creating scientific studies because no one wants to make individuals sick.

18:00: Dr. Tessier details a few literature pieces that go against the idea of why mold exposure can impact autoimmunity and the flaws in their argument.

23:30: Dr. Tessier goes through what it will take for change to occur and for the impact of mold exposure to be taken seriously. Insurance companies, in particular, have a fantastic opportunity to spearhead the initiative to provide better protection for individuals impacted by mold growth.

28:30: ​​Dr. Tessier explains why individuals cannot heal in the environment that’s making them sick in the first place. For those who can’t, she details a few things people can do to help reduce exposure and the importance of not trying to seek perfection.

34:00: Dr. Tessier goes through the steps an individual should take if they’re suffering from mold exposure and toxicity. She said that you should document all of your symptoms so that a medical professional will have a more clear picture of what’s going on in your body and use this to help determine a diagnosis. She then further explains how she helps treat her clients and the steps she takes to detox their bodies.

48:00: Dr. Tessier explains one main thing she hopes people will take away from this discussion.

Learn more about Dr. Lauren Tessier:
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Today’s guest is Katherine Poulos, Licensed Cosmetologist, Certified Functional Medicine Health Coach, founder, and exposure survivor. Kali's experience with mold exposure has been a long and painful journey, but one that has opened her eyes to how dangerous this indoor contaminant can be. While she was previously familiar with mold illness and some of the effects exposure can have, she never considered that it was her environment affecting her body so greatly.

After moving into an apartment, Kali began to experience a range of seemingly random symptoms but thought that it was a result of her Hashimoto’s. As her condition continued to worsen, she eventually ended up at the hospital and was diagnosed with aplastic anemia. That’s when the conversation turned to bone-marrow transplants, blood transfusions, and survival rates.

It wasn’t until her business partner mentioned her drastic health change immediately following moving into the new indoor space that she decided to take a look at what was in her environment. The results showed astronomical levels of chaetomium, the root cause of her degrading health. After the discovery, she immediately left the environment and began to feel her body slowly improving.

It took years, but she’s now well on the path to healing and is using this experience to help others who are suffering from exposure. After her experience in the cosmetology industry, she’s also focusing on helping these professionals who are suffering from various exposures, including mold. She's working on navigating healthy beauty products as well.

Kali’s journey shows how seriously environmental exposures can affect health and the need for greater awareness and research. She experienced firsthand just how little the medical world is aware of contaminants such as mold, leaving it up to those who are suffering to be their own health advocates. We’ve got a long way to go, but sharing stories like Kali’s will help shine a light on this issue and bring about the change that is needed worldwide.

"It’s crazy when you think back that your home can make you sick."

"I do believe that every healer and those in service go through things in order to learn and be of service to others, and I know that this was part of my journey for that."

"Start with what you can. Don’t overwhelm yourself and don’t become a perfectionist because that will just inhibit you from making progress. Do the best you can with what you have and start with what you can do at home now. Even if it’s just drinking pure water."

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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Jaban Moore to discuss his perspective on mold exposure, the impact indoor environments have on health, and how this can all relate back to chronic illness and conditions. He shares his wealth of knowledge and experience to highlight how prevalent this issue is and what needs to be done to solve this health crisis.

In this episode, they dive into:

0:30: Dr. Jaban Moore describes how prominent mold exposure and chronic illness are and the importance of shining a light on this issue. He goes through his experience treating patients and how it can relate to autoimmune conditions such as Lyme disease and PANS/PANDAS. As he explains, it has a huge impact on the immune system, giving it its power. 

3:00: Dr. Jaban Moore explains some of the routes that exposure and toxins in the body take to impact the body and the role inflammation plays. 

5:15: Dr. Jaban Moore shares his perspective on treating patients who have been to doctor after doctor but no one could shine a light on why they’re suffering from chronic illness. The narrative is slowly starting to change, highlighting the need to pay attention to this issue, but it’s got a way to go before people are more aware. As he said, if we can educate the population, this issue will be at the forefront of the conversation. 

10:15: Dr. Jaban Moore discusses root causes, different types of medicine, and the importance of looking at everyone's unique situation. "Start with the why to understand what’s actually causing the problems." Sometimes, it takes years for toxins to build up in the body and begin triggering symptoms, and even then, people will brush off many of their issues. With how little attention is given to indoor mold growth, indoor environments are often the last place that people look to as a problem. He explains several instances where he’s seen this in his clinic. 

16:30: Dr. Jaban Moore details his personal experience with Lyme and treating patients with this condition over the years. He also describes his journey with mold exposure and how it impacted his life. 

23:00: Dr. Jaban Moore describes the impact our indoor environments have on health and the contaminants that can exist within them. To make it even more tricky, every person can handle exposure levels differently, and this changes over time. "Your body has a threshold for its ability to detox. All of ours are different. You need to figure out what yours is.

28:00: Dr. Jaban Moore explains the canary in the coal mine situation and how this relates to mold exposure. He also goes through his experience of witnessing this with clients that he has treated.  

32:30: Dr. Jaban Moore goes through the issue of people not wanting to deal with all of these issues with mold. As he said, there needs to be a new standard for health and pushing through the norm of chronic illness. "The standard should be to live well into your 80’s."

37:00: Dr. Jaban Moore lists things people can do to take back control of their health. 

Learn more about Dr. Jaban Moore at:

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Instagram: @drjabanmoore

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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Kenneth Bock to discuss his wealth of experience helping patients heal from chronic conditions and environmental exposures like mold.

As a leader in integrative medicine, Dr. Bock has accumulated over 35 years of experience diagnosing the root cause of chronic illnesses and restoring balance to his patients’ immune systems. He founded Bock Integrative Medicine in response to the increasing need for board-certified medical providers who take a unique "whole body" approach to diagnose and treat chronic illness.

After graduating Summa Cum Laude from the State University of New York at Buffalo in 1973, he went on to earn his M.D. with Honor from the University of Rochester School of Medicine in 1979. He is board-certified in Family Medicine, a Certified Nutrition Specialist, and a Fellow of the American Academy of Family Practice, the American College of Nutrition, and the American College for Advancement in Medicine, of which he is a former President. Dr. Kenneth Bock is also a faculty member of the Institute for Functional Medicine (IFM).

In this episode, they dive into:
01:00: Dr. Kenneth Bock discusses how large of a role he believes environmental factors play in health and touches on his experiences helping clients with this. While there are many factors that influence how symptoms manifest in our bodies, environments play an important role. He also touches on how mold is a factor in this issue.

6:00: Dr. Bock describes his experience with clients who are in the midst of a perfect storm of problems, and then one final push sends them over the edge. Mold is an example of the final stressor that sends someone into a downward spiral.

7:30: Dr. Bock goes through the importance of getting out of moldy environments. It’s similar to not eating as much sugar when you’re hyperglycemic.

9:20: Dr. Bock discusses the role genetics plays in environmental exposure-related symptoms and the issues he’s seen from doctors only focusing on this one piece.

12:15: Dr. Bock explains what he calls the "immune kettle" and the role it plays in how a person experiences environmental exposures. "Some people do get a stacked deck in terms of genetic predispositions, and they may have to do even more to stay healthy. But the people who think they’re riding free… There’s no such thing as a free lunch."

14:10: Dr. Bock discusses the differences between acute and chronic inflammation and the importance of distinguishing the two. He also details the various health problems inflammation can trigger, both physical and mental. People think all inflammation is bad, and it’s really not that way. Acute inflammation has a purpose. However, if it’s overwhelming inflammation or chronic persistent inflammation, those are the problems.

19:50: Dr. Kenneth Bock goes through the importance of looking at the entire picture because, "If you don’t look, you won’t see. If you don’t listen, you won’t hear."

23:30: Dr. Kenneth Bock details the importance of both science and intuition while treating a patient. As he said, the medical world has lost the art of making diagnoses and treatment plans.

26:00: Dr. Kenneth Bock discusses why he continues to do his job and why he’s so passionate about what he does. He also details the books he’s written over the years and why he wrote them in the first place.

32: Dr. Kenneth Bock explains the importance of both taking nutrients and making sure you’re taking the correct dosage. For those dealing with environmental exposures, this is even more important.

To learn more about Dr. Kenneth Bock at:
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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Kasey Holland to discuss her experience treating patients who are suffering from mold illness and toxic indoor environments. She details how interconnected this issue can be with other conditions such as the Epstein-Barr virus and how many may be suffering, but are normalizing their chronic conditions.

Dr. Kasey Holland, ND is a Naturopathic Doctor. She chose to go into Naturopathic medicine because she believes that health is made up of physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual components. She is passionately driven to provide her clients with a completely holistic approach to their health concerns, no matter how simple or complex they may be. Dr. Holland’s goal for each client is to uncover the root cause of their ailments. She understands that the key to achieving optimal wellness and being free of chronic disease is multi-dimensional and different for each individual. Part of this comes from her own experience with health obstacles.

In this episode, they dive into:

0:30: Dr. Kasey Holland discusses how big of a piece external toxins play in health and wellness and the experiences she’s had helping clients. Water-damaged homes in particular are posing a serious health risk, she said.

2:00: Dr. Kasey Holland details her thoughts on how indoor contaminants like mold influence the Epstein-Barr virus and why they play such a large role. Maintaining a healthy environment is a key component of healing, she said.

5:30: Dr. Kasey Holland highlights how great the variation can be in those who experience adverse health reactions to exposure and the extent to which it impacts their lives.

8:00: Dr. Kasey Holland discusses how some individuals may not be able to notice a vast influence on their bodies from exposure, but that doesn’t mean it doesn't have an effect. 

11:45: Dr. Kasey Holland details her career in treating individuals with mold illness and what led her to this route of treatment.

16:00: Dr. Kasey Holland discusses the rising prevalence of mold growth in brand new homes and a few reasons why this is occurring.

27:00: Dr. Kasey Holland goes through her process of helping clients heal from exposure and what people should look for if they suspect a problem. As she says, every individual is different, so she assesses where their comfort levels are and their acceptance of mold as a root cause, and then forms a plan around this. 

33:00: Dr. Kasey Holland explains the importance of the doctor-patient relationship and how this can impact helping individuals heal. Having data and testing options available can help bridge the gap for those who are struggling with exposure, particularly those who are sensitive.

40:00: Dr. Kasey Holland explains why people should have high standards for mold. Not only will you save time and money, but you will also save your health as well. 

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drkaseyholland/

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A Sacred Responsibility 

In this episode, Micahel Rubino sits down with Dr. Will Cole, IFMCP, DNM, DC, leading functional-medicine expert, author, advocate, and podcast host. Dr. Will dives into the comprehensive process needed to heal individuals from toxicity, the prevalence of this health epidemic in society, and the importance of pushing back against the norm and fighting for one's health.

Dr. Will Cole is a leading functional-medicine expert who consults people around the world via webcam, having started one of the first functional medicine telehealth centers in the world. Named one of the top 50 functional and integrative doctors in the nation, Cole specializes in clinically investigating underlying factors of chronic disease and customizing a functional medicine approach for thyroid issues, autoimmune conditions, hormonal imbalances, digestive disorders, and brain problems.

He is also the host of the popular The Art of Being Well podcast and bestselling author of Ketotarian, The Inflammation Spectrum, and the New York Times bestseller Intuitive Fasting.

Dr. Will Cole, senior clinic director, is uniquely skilled and experienced at finding the root physiological, biochemical, and hormonal causes underlying many diseases. He has broken free from the limiting approach of “standard care,” which most often calls upon drugs and hormones as a first defense against these diseases without a real inspection as to the root underlying causes and contributing factors to each individual’s presenting complaints.

Dr. Cole uses breakthrough diagnostic testing and analysis that’s rarely done in conventional settings to uncover the hidden causes of why people feel the way they feel. He also takes great pride in delivering personalized healthcare treatment to patients as well as providing an environment that supports and inspires patients to reverse their poor health.

“It's frustrating, but to really hold space for these people that have gone through hell is a sacred responsibility for me. I can't change what they went through, but they can change their present and the future.”

To learn more about Dr. Will Cole:

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Instagram: @drwillcole

TikTok: @drwillcole

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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Tania Dempsey, an expert in chronic disease, autoimmune disorders, and mast cell activation syndrome. Dr. Tania goes into detail about mast cell activation syndrome and the effects of living in a toxic world.

Dr. Dempsey is sought after internationally for her knowledge of chronic immune dysregulation and has attracted patients from Israel, England, Thailand, and France. Dr. Dempsey uses integrative medicine to get to the root cause(s) of the patient's illness. Her purpose is to understand why people get sick and to help patients understand their bodies and why they fail when they do.

Dr. Dempsey received her MD from The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and her BS degree from Cornell University. She completed her residency at NYU Medical Center/Bellevue Hospital and then served as an attending physician at a large multi-specialty medical practice in White Plains, NY, before opening Armonk Integrative Medicine. Dr. Dempsey specializes in autoimmune diseases, MCAS, and chronic illness.

In this episode, they dive into:

0:45: Dr. Tania discusses mold, how large of an issue exposure is for health, and the complexity of why it’s an increasingly common issue. Many people, she says, don’t take this indoor contaminant seriously and have heard a long list of misinformation.

10:00: Dr. Tania lists the symptoms and reactions that can develop in those experiencing mast cell activation syndrome. As she explains, this condition is systemic and can affect various places in the body and manifest in different ways. 

15:00: Dr. Tania touches on the interconnection between mold exposure and the long list of other exposures, conditions, and factors that play a role in how the body reacts and what symptoms can develop. 

20:00: Dr. Tania explains the issues she’s seen with remediation protocols and the failed projects she’s witnessed for her clients. Dr. Tania herself experienced a mold issue and multiple failed remediations for her own home. 

25:30: Dr. Tania discusses the influence bacteria have as well as mold exposure and mast cell activation syndrome. Bacteria are often found alongside indoor mold growth and can play a role in how someone’s body responds to the toxic environment. 

36:00: Dr. Tania goes through what individuals should do if they have mast cell activation syndrome and/or mold exposure and the treatment protocols they should expect.

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The Root of the Problem

Today’s guest is Sarah Tate, a school teacher, toxic mold warrior, and exposure survivor. Sarah’s experience with mold exposure has been a long and painful journey as she continually suffered through symptoms that no one could find the root of the problem for. As time went on, she began to fear that the chronic pain and health issues would be the new normal in her life and that relief would never come.

Today’s Talk:
In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Sarah Tate to discuss her difficult and debilitating experience with mold toxicity. Her long-time suffering shows how important it is to create more awareness for this indoor contaminant so that the root of the problem can be unearthed much sooner and chronic symptoms due to exposure don’t continue on much longer than they should.

With a family history of migraines, Sarah initially thought that her onset of pain was just an unavoidable fact of life that she would need to receive treatment for. As time went on, she tried a long list of pain-relief techniques, but nothing seemed to work. Eventually, her discomfort was so intense that it began to affect her first teaching job in Chicago, making it nearly impossible to just get through a normal day.

She attempted to find answers and visited doctor after doctor, even going to a treatment facility for two weeks, but no one could pinpoint why her pain was getting worse and other symptoms like drastic weight loss were occurring. After moving to her home state of Louisiana and struggling to manage the symptoms and emotional trauma while teaching during the COVID-19 pandemic, she and her family were steered to a functional medicine facility in Chicago. Her new team of medical professionals instantly pointed her to mold toxicity, an answer which was then supported with testing.

Since her diagnosis, Sarah has struggled to find a detox protocol that works for her body. She and her practitioner team have been working tirelessly to find a balance of gently getting her body to detox the toxins without moving too fast and causing her even more pain. It’s been an emotional and distressing journey for Sarah and her family, filled with anxiety and dark thoughts, but she’s continuing to push on and has faith that healthier, pain-free days are on the horizon. She’s using her journey as a learning experience to prioritize herself and her health as well as take everything one day at a time.

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In this episode, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Neil Nathan, M.D., researcher, complex medical problem-solver and healer (particularly for mold toxicity), and author.

Neil Nathan, MD, has been practicing medicine for almost five decades. He has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today.

He has been working to bring awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject, which led to the publication of several books, including Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, and his most recent book, Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.

In this episode, they dive into:

1:00: Dr. Nathan discusses what led him to write his first book, Toxic. Back in the 80s, he began seeing an increasing number of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue cases, but because the medical world was unfamiliar with this condition, patients were sent to therapy. From there, he started connecting the dots to conditions such as mold toxicity and started helping his clients, even though it wasn’t the "norm" in the medical world. From there, his journey into mold and understanding how it affects the body took off. This includes studying with Dr. Shoemaker.
6:00: Dr. Nathan goes through his other books and what sparked his desire to keep releasing information about mold, healing, and treatments.
9:30: Dr. Nathan discusses his idea of how many individuals are suffering from mold exposure, his experience in treatment, and the common symptoms he’s seen. He goes over mold allergy and mold toxicity as well as the difference between the two. He discusses the influence of genetics and the various other components that result in adverse health reactions.
14:00: Dr. Nathan addresses the misconception that since mold exists in nature, it’s no problem for our health. He also discusses mycotoxins, a toxic byproduct of some mold species.
16:30: Dr. Nathan discusses why he agrees to disagree with Dr. Shoemaker on the idea that it’s not mold growth in a home that’s causing health issues, but actinomyces. Michael discusses his related experience and opinions as well.
21:45: Dr. Nathan discusses his new book, Energetic Diagnosis, and the motivation behind writing it.
24:00: Dr. Nathan discusses his short ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins, and its recent rewrite.
34:45: Dr. Nathan discusses his experience with a urine analysis being inconclusive even though the individual is suffering from toxicity and delves into the explanations behind it.
37:00: Dr. Nathan explains how crucial remediation and mold avoidance are in helping patients heal from exposure. You can get better, but you can’t heal in the environment that’s making you ill.
46:30: Dr. Nathan discusses the need for more studies, technology, and research funding to help better understand mold exposure and the impact it has on health.
53:00: Dr. Nathan explains the importance of being patient while healing from mold toxicity because it can take years. But, it is treatable.

To Learn More About Dr. Neil Nathan:
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https://www.amazon.com/Neil-Nathan/e/B004IW6A5A%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

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