After Courtney Dauwalter set a new record at Western States without a pacer, Buzz and Corrine discuss the pros and cons of having someone run with you.

Corrine interviews Michael Wirth about his full moon Elk Traverse FKT (54 miles, 23,500 feet of uphill). You can check out the gear he used for this adventure here. Then, Buzz chats with Kaitlyn about how to approach training as a young athlete (hint: run like the Norwegians). And he gives Snehal a confidence boost and urges him to trust the training.

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