Episode #309 // We rarely do interviews on No Bullsh!t Leadership. But when Patrick Lencioni’s team reached out to us earlier this year, we jumped at the opportunity to have him join us on the podcast.

Patrick Lencioni is a global thought leader, who has established himself as one of the preeminent thinkers of our generation in the field of leadership and organizational behavior.

Pat has written more than a dozen books, which are incredibly easy to absorb and apply – some of the most practical content you’ll find. His seminal work, The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, has sold over 3 million copies, making it one of the highest-selling business books ever written.

With such an impressive body of work, which he adds to every week with his two podcasts, At the Table and  Working Genius, it was hard to know where to start. I decided to have an open conversation with Pat about some of the key issues that are facing leaders in 2024 and beyond.

Our conversation went for well over an hour, so this episode is the first part of the interview, where we discuss hybrid work and courage in leadership.

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