In this candid and thought-provoking episode of Please Me, Eve sits down with Kels and Tess—creators of the Porn Nerds podcast miniseries and founders of Squirm—for a deeply honest conversation about porn, pleasure, and the role of communication in sexual education. Together, they dismantle the myth that porn is an accurate or sufficient source for sex ed and offer practical ways adults can build sexual confidence, curiosity, and connection outside the tube sites.

From navigating shame and stigma to setting boundaries in relationships (and throuples!), this episode explores how porn can be used as a tool for inspiration—but not a manual for real-life intimacy.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

Why porn is not a substitute for sexual education—and what is

How to communicate turn-ons and boundaries without awkwardness

The role of fantasy in enhancing solo and partnered sex

Why watching porn together can actually deepen connection

Ways to use desire as a conversation starter, not a point of conflict

How Kels & Tess built Squirm to destigmatize conversations around sex

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 Where to Find Kels & Tess:
Website: https://getsquirmy.com
Instagram: @squirm

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