The Real Health Podcast

Proactive vs Reactive Care and Integrative Medicine Leadership


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"We’re moving from reactive care to proactive care." —Dr. Michelle Niesley

Some people feel like they’re always reacting to symptoms without really understanding what’s underneath them.

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Michelle Niesley to discuss leadership at Riordan Clinic and what it means to move toward a more proactive approach to care.

They talk about how communication across teams shapes the experience for co-learners, and why that matters from the very first call through long-term follow-up. Dr. Niesley also shares her background in integrative oncology and research, and how that perspective helps her see where care can be more connected and more clear.

They explore what it looks like to move from a reactive model to a more proactive one—using testing, data, and patterns over time to better understand what each person may need. There’s also a conversation around newer tools, like wearable technology, and how those can help people stay more aware of what’s changing in their bodies day to day.

You’ll also hear how the co-learner model shows up in real life. People are asking more questions, looking for clarity, and wanting to be part of the process.

As Riordan Clinic looks ahead, the focus is on staying connected to the community, continuing research, and building on what’s already working to support co-learners over time.

If you’re exploring integrative medicine or looking for a more personalized way to approach your health, you can learn more or request an appointment at riordanclinic.org.

✨ Riordan Clinic is also celebrating 50 years of care at the upcoming Pearls & Purpose Gala. It’s a chance to come together, reflect on where the clinic has been, and support where it’s going. To learn more or reserve your seat, visit gala.riordanclinic.org

Many co-learners start by gathering information and asking questions before deciding what makes sense for them. Conversations like this are meant to support that process.

Episode links and resources

Explore integrative services at Riordan Clinic

Become a new co-learner

Learn more about Dr. Ron Hunninghake

Learn more about Dr. Michelle Niesley

Reserve your seat at the Pearls & Purpose Gala

Watch more Real Health Podcast episodes

Episode chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Real Health Podcast

00:57 Leadership at Riordan Clinic

03:10 Dr. Niesley’s background and research

06:45 Transition to CEO role

10:05 Building a connected leadership team

13:20 Integrative medicine approach

16:10 From reactive to proactive care

19:05 Role of data and technology in care

21:45 Co-learner model and patient engagement

23:50 Looking ahead to the future of Riordan Clinic

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative medicine leadership, proactive vs reactive care, personalized health approach, co-learner model, functional medicine strategy, healthcare leadership communication, patient-centered care, health data and wearable technology, Riordan Clinic, Real Health Podcast

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