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Are public relations and marketing two distinct disciplines—or is PR simply one piece of the broader marketing puzzle? It’s a question that stirs up strong opinions in boardrooms, agencies, and comms teams alike.
Some argue PR is strategic storytelling aimed at building relationships, while marketing is focused on driving sales. Others say that in today’s world of integrated messaging, the separation is outdated.
In this episode, we take on the debate head-on, exploring how the roles overlap, where they diverge, and whether the modern media landscape has blurred the lines beyond repair. Is PR still its own function—or has it become just another lane on marketing’s highway?
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:10 Fyre Festival The Luxury Mirage
4:02 Influence vs Image Showdown
6:25 PR Is the Pie
10:14 The Sad Fate of Local Media
13:02 Metrics KPIs and the Dashboard Wars
18:54 Who Owns the Message
25:10 The Final Prediction Marketers Report to PR
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Most PR strategies still focus on the big three: social, legacy media, and search. But while everyone’s watching the headlines, the real conversations—the ones shaping trust, behavior, and brand reputation—are happening in people’s ears. Podcasts aren’t just a trend or another content format. They’re a strategic intelligence channel, and if you’re not monitoring them, you’re missing critical signals.
In this episode of Stories and Strategies, we talk to Bradley Davis, co-founder and CEO of Podchaser, the platform often called the “IMDb of podcasts.” From how global brands like Starbucks and Amazon use podcast data to shape campaigns, to why the most valuable audience insights aren’t public-facing at all, PR pros need to know what they can no longer afford to ignore.
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1:29 The Crackle That Started It All
3:33 Podchaser: IMDb for Podcasts
5:25 Podcasting as a Third Dimension of Analytics
8:20 Guest Pitching vs. Starting a Podcast
10:32 How Rogan, Newsom & Trump Changed the Game
13:05 Key Messages Out. Vibe Is In.
21:09 Answer to Last Episode’s Question from Guest Irene Lungu
Guest: Bradley Davis, Co-Founder & CEO, Podchaser
Podchaser | LinkedIn | Instagram | X | About Bradley
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What does public relations look like in a country where radio is still growing, social media still exploding, and communication reaches from rural villages to global platforms?
In this episode, we take a closer look at Zambia — a nation with a vibrant, evolving PR landscape shaped by both tradition and innovation.
Irene Lungu is one of Zambia’s leading voices in public relations and a board member of the Global Alliance for Public Relations and Communication Management. She joins us to talk about ethics, communication trends, and the responsibilities that come with influence in today’s media environment.
We explore how Zambian practitioners are navigating rapid change, and what global conversations they're helping to shape.
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3:50 Why Zambia Regulated Its PR Industry
6:14 Resistance and Discomfort: Who Pushed Back
8:00 Is PR Regulation a Threat to Free Speech?
14:36 Global Standards, Local Contexts
16:14 The World’s #1 Risk: Misinformation
18:52. Answer to Last Episode’s Question from Guest Olivia Fajardo
Guest: Irene Lungu
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Employee engagement is evolving — and the old assumptions no longer hold. Today, workers want more than a paycheck. They want growth, flexibility, and to feel like their voices matter. In this episode, we unpack surprising new research on what really drives engagement, retention, and belonging inside organizations. Olivia Fajardo joins us to explain why internal communications has become mission critical — and how companies can move from simply talking to truly connecting. If you care about building teams that stay and thrive, this conversation is for you.
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4:14 PR: As Stressful as Firefighting
5:05 Why Communicators Feel More Purpose
6:34 Career Stagnation: The Hidden Threat
9:27 The Hybrid Challenge for Internal Comms
12:05 The Listening-Action Gap
12:10 Olivia’s Strategies to Build Trust and Accountability
20:05 Answer to Last Episode’s Question from Guest Helena Humphrey
Guest: Oliva Fajardo, Director of Research, Institute for Public Relations
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Link to IPR Study Employee Engagement in the Communications Industry
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More Americans are turning down the volume on domestic news — and turning up British voices instead. From BBC to The Guardian, outlets across the Atlantic are reshaping how U.S. audiences see their own country.
Why is this happening? And what does it say about trust, tone, and the global conversation?
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3:48 British Media’s Rising Credibility in the U.S.
7:23 Could BBC Influence U.S. Culture?
12:29 Feminism, TikTok, and the Tradwife Dilemma
18:47 Femininity and Power Around the World
21:32 Answer to Last Episode’s Question from Guest Sarah Waddington
Guest: Helena Humphrey, BBC
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Feeling stuck or stressed at work? You might just need to GROW your way out.
Executive coach Sarah Waddington shares the power and practicality of the GROW model — Goal, Reality, Options, Way forward — in transforming workplace performance, especially within high-pressure environments like PR.
Sarah breaks down how this deceptively simple coaching framework fosters self-awareness, reduces stress, builds resilience, and helps individuals and teams move from dependency to interdependency.
From managing difficult clients and workplace lethargy to unlocking mindset shifts for career advancement, this conversation offers actionable tips to leaders and middle managers alike on how to introduce coaching into fast-paced and demanding cultures.
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5:15 Why GROW works for both work and life
7:04 Applying GROW in the pressure cooker of PR
11:52 Nightmare client scenario: Using GROW in real-time challenges
14:40 Resilience in PR: Avoiding burnout with GROW
16:37 — Baby steps for senior leaders to start using GROW
19:20 Answer to Last Episode’s Question From Guest Mark Borkowski
Guest: Sarah Waddington, CBE
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#FuturePRoof Community https://www.futureproofingcomms.co.uk/
Socially Mobile https://www.sociallymobile.org.uk/
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Reputation is often treated like an invisible asset—vital but fragile. And while we insure everything from homes to art collections, very few think to protect their name.
In this episode, we speak to PR pioneer Mark Borkowski about a bold new product: crisis insurance for individuals. It’s not just an idea—it’s a rethinking of how we prepare for the worst-case scenario in a world where reputation can be destroyed with just one social media post.
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4:10 The Power of Optimism Bias
10:33 Delivering Bad News to Powerful Clients
13:25 Why Killing Your Ego Matters
18:12 What Is Reputational Risk Insurance?
21:39 Building an Insurance Product for Reputation
22:50 Answer to Last Episode’s Question From Guest Jo Carr
Guest: Mark Borkowski
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What makes a workplace culture truly thrive—especially in the pressure-cooker world of creative agencies?
Can you REALLY be tough on the work but kind to your people without compromise?
Jo Carr, co-founder of Hope and Glory and President of Women in PR breaks down the complexities of workplace culture, empathy-driven leadership, and how to create spaces where people—and their diverse lives—can flourish.
From crafting policies that acknowledge the full spectrum of life’s moments to challenging outdated hiring mindsets, Jo brings wisdom, warmth, and a welcome dose of honesty. She shares how high standards and human kindness aren’t mutually exclusive, why culture should be additive rather than restrictive, and what it takes to keep women in the leadership pipeline.
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4:27 Culture = Environment + Experience
8:15 The House Metaphor: Building Structure, Allowing Individuality
9:17 From Culture Fit to Culture Add
16:57 How Do You Build Culture With Cultural Diversity?
19:13 Women in PR: From Majority to Minority in Leadership
23:09 Presence Over Perfection: Being Fully There, Wherever You Are
23:26 Answer to Last Episode’s Question From Guest Suhel Seth
Guest: Jo Carr, founder Hope & Glory PR, Women in PR
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In an age where opinions form faster than facts and headlines spark outrage before understanding, how do brands, leaders, and storytellers stay credible?
Is your opinion truly yours? Or just an echo of your tribe?
In this episode, Suhel Seth unpacks the transformation of communication in the era of attention deficit — from the collapse of nuance to the rise of instant outrage, and why the art of thoughtful messaging might just be the most urgent skill of our time.
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3:07 The Cult of Immediacy: A Communication Crisis
7:59 The Lost Art of Contextualization
12:26 Social Identity & Tribal Thinking
14:32 Why Modern Society Fears Disruption
19:14 India: A Market or a Civilization?
23:57 Why India Didn’t Create Google or Facebook
24:50 Answer to Last Episode’s Question From Guest Andy Coulson
Guest: Suhel Seth
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What happens when the man behind the headlines becomes the headline?
Former tabloid editor and Downing Street comms chief Andy Coulson opens up about his very public fall from grace — from resignations and scandal to serving time in prison — and how he rebuilt his life and career in the shadow of cancel culture.
With raw honesty and sharp insight, Andy talks about the realities of recovery, the myth of reinvention, and why consistency and character matter more than ever in a world obsessed with outrage.
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10:57 How to Recover from Cancellation: Strategy Over Reinvention
15:45 Attention Deficit and the New Rules of Reputation
17:48 Crisis Management vs. Political Strategy: Don’t Follow the Trump Playbook
20:28 In a Polarized World, How Do You Define Good and Bad?
23:16 Answer to Last Episode’s Question From Guest Tina McCorkindale, PhD
Guest: Andy Coulson
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Andy’s Podcast Crisis? What Crisis?
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Every organization has a story people believe about it. Most leaders didn't choose that story. They inherited it, stumbled into it, or lost control of it somewhere along the…
Stories and Strategies is the Public Relations podcast that changes that.
Host Doug Downs talks with the communicators, executives, and strategists who understand that narrative isn't a marketing function. It's a leadership one. Each episode unpacks what actually shapes reputation, trust, and public perception at the highest levels, drawing on behavioral science, media intelligence, and the ethics that keep persuasion honest.
This is public relations at the level serious leaders need it. Not tactics and press releases. The thinking behind why some stories win and others disappear.
Ranked among the most listened-to public relations podcasts in the world, Stories and Strategies reaches leaders and communicators across six continents every week.
If you are responsible for the story people believe about your organization, you cannot afford to guess. Follow Stories and Strategies wherever you listen to your public relations content.

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