These two former Bachelorettes were long overdue for a chat and luckily, their convo is recorded for all of the Vinos as they catch up on Bachelor Nation, relationships, social media, and what’s next. Host of two podcasts, author, attorney, and all-around amazing human being Rachel Lindsay is uncomfortable right now… and that’s OK! She explains to KB why she’s leaving a long-term gig and the fears that come along with that decision. She also reveals what she hopes is next for her in terms of both her career and her marriage, a relationship she chooses to speak about on her podcast but not often displays through social media. Kaitlyn and Rachel always feel like they need more, but often pausing and taking a step back to reevaluate life is necessary, and they discuss what pausing looks like and what it can bring up. Plus, Rachel confesses how she was almost a part of Charity’s Bachelorette season and why she decided to ultimately keep her distance.

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