Caller Question: "Masturbation. Ive heard both of your episodes on it. As well as one from sex for saints podcast. I dont deny theres a change in the church about masturbation and love the new movement you're a part of to speak up. Im hopping aboard to speak up publicly about how I'm a recovering sexaholic, working the SAL program, etc.  So far from what you guys have spoken about in regards to masturbation, i agree to a degree. But I was hoping you could help answer my question:  I'm curious if you could speak more to how lust plays a part in masturbation.  From my own experiences it definitely has played a central role. And as a married man i dont know if i can masturbate without lusting to a degree that would ruin my recovery/slippery slope and scratch the itch/ relieve sexual tension/ etc.  But for my kids. Teaching them. I agree a lot with what you've said, but i know that masturbation is a dangerous gateway into lust addiction."   We hope you found something meaningful in this episode. If you're looking for insight into real recovery, you can find more stories and conversations like this on The REAL TALK RECOVERY Podcast hosted by The Therapy Brothers (Brannon Patrick LSCW "The Expert" and Tyler Patrick LMFT "The Wandering Therapist").    We'd love to have you as a guest. You can submit your question and have a real and honest conversation with 2 experienced therapists on realtalkrecovery.com or therapybros.com.