In this episode, Lisa welcomes Laura to share her inspiring journey of healing her relationship with food and body image. Together, they delve into Laura’s transformative path toward mindful eating and reconnecting with her body. 

Topics Include:

Body Image

Food Rules

Emotional Healing

[1:24] Lisa introduces Laura, a graduate of the Out of the Cave program, who is excited to share her journey. Laura introduces herself, mentioning her work as a virtual academic advisor and her love for podcasts, movies, and live music.

[9:31] Laura shares with Lisa the strict food rules from ages six to ten, influenced by her mother’s emphasis on health, such as having half the plate filled with vegetables and limited dessert portions. Laura discusses how she felt the rules around food were just another set of rules to follow in an already unstable childhood environment, leading to a sense of rebellion and desire for control.

[15:05] Lisa and Laura discuss how gaining independence around age 14-15 allowed her to make her own food choices, which felt liberating and rebellious against the food restrictions. Laura reflects on her weight gain in high school, which was noticed and commented on by her mother, leading to a need to hide eating habits.

[25:40] Laura discusses that she aware of her weight gain and had mixed feelings about it, balancing a ‘fuck it’ attitude with a desire for social acceptance and attention. Laura discusses her tumultuous college experience, including transferring schools, dealing with depression, and using food as a coping mechanism. 

[42:30] Laura describes how food became a source of control and comfort during uncertain times, such as college and the pandemic. Lisa and Laura discuss the emotional relationship with food and how it was intertwined with her life experiences. They talk about the transition to adulthood, focusing on the lack of guidance in managing responsibilities like food and money. They reflect on the challenges of becoming self-sufficient.

[51:07] Laura talks about her emotional state during various life stages, including college, early adulthood, and the pandemic. Lisa and Laura discuss how her mental health was affected by life not going as planned. Laura discusses experiencing anxiety during a heavy conversation before a retreat, leading to an emotional breakthrough allowing her to verbalize long-held feelings about her body and food. Laura joins Lisa’s group coaching program that helps her understand the science behind her behaviors and emotions. 

[57:41] Through the OOTC program, Laura learns about the concept of emotional safety, realizing how her brain perceives safety and how it affects her choices around food and movement. Lisa and Laura discuss how the program helped her find a balance between emotional exploration and scientific understanding, leading to personal growth. Laura describes a shift in her relationship with food and movement, moving from fear to empowerment. She shares a significant moment of walking a boardwalk, realizing her capability and safety.

[1:07:39] Laura discusses learning to regulate eating habits, understanding hunger cues, and making healthier food choices without strict dieting. Lisa emphasizes the importance of mindful eating, allowing full permission to choose foods without restriction, and making intentional choices. Lisa acknowledges Laura's weight loss as a byproduct of mindful eating and body connection, without focusing on scales or tracking.

[1:21:00] As the episode closes, Laura reflects on personal growth, clarity, and understanding of being human, with a focus on slowing down and being present. She also expresses her gratitude to Lisa for all the program has done for her.

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