(00:00:00) Introduction

(00:01:28) The Radical Candor Remote Philosophy

(00:06:41) Office Productivity & Innovation

(00:10:27) Navigating Unwanted Change

(00:16:12) Should You Stay or Should You Go?

(00:19:17) Burnout, Hybrid, and Hidden Costs

(00:24:19) The Cost of Constant Interruptions

(00:30:22) Generational and Gender Gaps

(00:32:07) Having Effective RTO Conversations

(00:35:29) Radical Candor Tips

(00:39:48) Conclusion

Back-to-office is back—and it’s messier, weirder, and more pointless than ever.

From malfunctioning WiFi to epic commutes and offices mysteriously out of toilet paper, the “return to office” era is serving up workplace absurdity on a silver platter. Jason and Amy blow past the corporate spin and get Radically Candid about the “back to the office” push: why it’s often more about control than collaboration, how companies overlook basic human needs, and the ways these policies can quietly erode trust, productivity, and psychological safety. From generational gripes to the myth that face time means innovation, they call out the real reasons so many leaders want butts in seats—and why those reasons rarely hold up. Who’s actually benefiting from all this office hoopla? Because at Radical Candor, we believe real leadership means listening, adapting, and making work suck a whole lot less—even if it means challenging the status quo.

Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.

Episode Links:

• Cockroaches And Working In A Closet: Inside Trump's Return-To-Office Order | Reuters
• No Toilet Paper And No Privacy: Returning To The Office, Federal Workers Walk Into Chaos | The New York Times
• Return To Office. Not Sure What To Do, A Bit Stressed. : R/Fednews
• What Happened At Your Org After They Implemented Their Return To Work Policy? : R/Jobs
• The Official List Of Every Company’s Back-To-Office Strategy | Hubble
• Federal Workers Ordered Back To Office Find Shortages Of Desks, Wi-Fi And Toilet Paper
• Does Returning To The Office Support Your Company’s Strategy? | HBR
• How To Get Return To Office Right | McKinsey
• RTO Mandate Trends In 2025: Why Forcing Employees Back To The Office Hurts Business | Hub Staff
• New Research Suggests Remote Jobs Are Best For Company’s Bottom Line | Forbes
• The Strength Of Weak Ties | Stanford Report
  

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Chapters:

(00:00:00) Introduction
Jason and Amy introduce the episode’s topic on return to office trends.

(00:01:28) The Radical Candor Remote Philosophy
Why the company is remote-first and the downsides of in-person work.

(00:06:41) Office Productivity & Innovation
Whether productivity and innovation improve when in office. 

(00:10:27) Navigating Unwanted Change
Advice for employees facing unwanted return-to-office changes.

(00:16:13) Should You Stay or Should You Go?
Evaluating if you should start job hunting or try to adapt to the new reality.

(00:19:17) Burnout, Hybrid, and Hidden Costs
Research on burnout and the importance of workplace social connections.

(00:24:19) The Cost of Constant Interruptions
Challenges with distractions and productivity in office environments.

(00:30:22) Generational and Gender Gaps
Differences in RTO satisfaction in different demographics.

(00:32:07) Having Effective RTO Conversations
Advocating for your needs and establishing new office processes.

(00:35:29) Radical Candor Tips
Tips for employees and managers navigating return-to-office mandates.

(00:39:48) Conclusion