Jenn David-Lang of The Main Idea returns to the show, and we talk with Grant Lichtman about his new book Moving the Rock: Seven Levers WE Can Press to Transform Education. This is an amazingly thought-provoking conversation about where we ought to be heading in education.

The best way to reach Grant is at his website: http://www.grantlichtman.com/.

You can reach Jenn through her website for The Main Idea (www.themainidea.net). She's offered to send listeners of this episode a free summary of Moving the Rock if you send her an email at [email protected].

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