Lisa sits down again with her number one fan and group coaching alum, Jade. They discuss Jade’s story with food, body image, and how she has healed her relationship with both. They also discuss parenting out of the cave and helping children to develop a healthy relationship with their bodies and food. Listen to Jade's first podcast, ⁠From Resistance to Acceptance⁠.

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[1:00] Lisa introduces Jade, mentioning her as a dedicated follower and fan. They discuss how Jade initially disliked Lisa's content but eventually became a fan. Lisa and Jade dive into Jade’s story, particularly her realization about being an emotional eater after listening to the podcast and following Lisa’s social media. 

[3:26] Jade shares her early life experiences, including her parents’ separation, living in a small village in Mexico. Jade discusses how poverty shaped her childhood, and feeling like a burden to her father, experiencing anxiety during supermarket trips, and feeling guilty about the financial strain she perceived she was causing. Jade shares how her large appetite was a frequent topic of discussion among adults in her hippie family. She discusses how she was made to feel that her appetite was undesirable and something to be questioned. 

[7:30] Jade shares her experience of sexual abuse during puberty and how her mother did not believe her because the abuser was financially supporting the family; how food became a source of comfort, especially through secret consumption of Snickers and Coca-Cola provided by the abuser.

[17:24] Jade describes the emotional impact of puberty, including dissociation, withdrawal, and the struggle with body image due to comments from others. She shares her struggle with body image, including avoiding mirrors and feeling like a ‘gross monster.’ 

[18:30] Lisa and Jade look deeper at how comments about eating habits during childhood can impact a child’s perception of food and self-worth. ​​They explore how parents’ comments about their children’s eating habits can create feelings of shame, fear, and judgment, making food and eating feel unsafe.

[20:00] Jade and Lisa discuss how Jade is working to make her own child curious about food and how they feel after eating certain foods, like sugar. Then they continue to examine Jade's relationship with food and her body through the years.

[33:16] During her pregnancy at 33, Jade was hyper-focused on eating ‘good’ foods and maintaining a certain body image, even while preparing for childbirth. She shares her journey of embracing body positivity through photography, capturing postpartum bodies. She talks about her internal conflict of feeling like an ‘ugly piece of shit’ despite promoting body positivity and photographing other women. 

[52:30] Jade describes her experiences with intuitive eating and intermittent fasting, and how she reintroduced fasting as a spiritual practice. Lisa and Jade examine the fear of hunger and healing that.

[1:09:08] Jade talks about how she navigates emotional eating by eating without shame and recognizing the need for comfort during exhaustion. Lisa and Jade both emphasize the importance of being kind to oneself and understanding the underlying emotions through practicing compassionate curiosity.

[1:19:42] Lisa and Jade close out the discussion by acknowledging that eating habits and body image perceptions go through different seasons and phases, and it’s important to honor each phase as part of the journey. Jade Beall Instagram, Jade Beall Website.

*The views of podcast guests do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of Lisa Schlosberg or Out of the Cave, LLC.

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