Six kids under six. C-suite roles at Australia's biggest retail brands. A law degree completed just to prove her brothers wrong.

Amy Louise doesn't do things halfway.

From shop floor to boardrooms. Amy's built her career scaling iconic Australian retailers while raising six children in what can only be described as controlled chaos.

But here's what she wants to know: Is burnout really a badge of honour? Or are we all deceiving to ourselves?

Amy asks the questions retail leaders are wrestling with right now—and the answers aren't what you'd expect. How do you move from corporate to founder to investor? What should you outsource when you're trying to do it all? And what does Naomi look for in leaders she backs?

Naomi shares the conversation that made her realise she needed help, why she and her husband make a plan each year, and the moment she knew her angel investing days were over.

Plus: the untapped opportunity in Australian retail over the next few years. It's not what most retailers think—and it can't be put in a box.

This episode is for anyone juggling impossible loads, wondering if there's a smarter way to do it all, or questioning what the next chapter looks like when you've already achieved what you set out to do.

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