Are you tired of being tired? This week’s guest, Shawna Robins, is here to shake up everything you thought you knew about sleep—and show you how to reclaim your energy, naturally and holistically. Shawna is the bestselling author of Powerful Sleep: Rest Deeply, Repair Your Brain, and Restore Your Life  and the visionary behind the women’s platform, Third Spark.

Her story is deeply inspiring: a cancer diagnosis at age 30 launched her into a transformative healing journey—one that eventually led her to discover the true power of sleep and how it connects to our gut, hormones, stress, and even our generational wellbeing. Shawna has since helped thousands break free from caffeine dependence, balance their bodies, and finally experience the kind of restorative sleep we all crave.

And Shawna’s sleep discoveries continued to be deeply personal. She shares how watching her father struggle with Alzheimer’s opened her eyes to the connection between poor sleep and long-term brain health. You’ll hear the powerful ways we can support our brains now to help reduce our risk for neurodegenerative conditions later in life.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why sleep (not hustle) is the real superpower
• How to create a sleep sanctuary and unwind with intention
• What gut health, hormones, and caffeine all have to do with your ability to sleep
• The eye-opening link between deep sleep, brain detox, and Alzheimer’s prevention
• Shawna’s personal rituals and expert tips for getting 8+ hours of deep, restful sleep

Whether you’re a sleep struggler or wellness seeker, this conversation is your invitation to rethink your relationship with rest. You’ll come away with practical tools and empowering wisdom that just might change your nights—and your life.

MORE FROM SHAWNA ROBINS

• Grab her book: Powerful Sleep
• Explore Third Spark: thirdsparkhealth.com
• Follow her on Instagram: @thirdsparkhealth

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