Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro (00:01:37) - The Netflix documentary: Misrepresentation and struggles (00:03:19) - Writing the memoir (00:08:47) - The challenges of independent publishing (00:12:40) - The creative process and future plans (00:35:23) - Impact of the book on readers (00:36:04) - Scripted series and unused content (00:36:36) - New docuseries and correcting the narrative (00:37:04) - Psychological analysis in documentaries (00:40:13) - Challenges and rewards of writing (00:41:36) - Unexpected positive outcomes (00:45:38) - Vulnerability of publishing a memoir (00:49:44) - Future aspirations and business rebuilding (00:53:54) - Experience with Scribe Publishing (01:02:59) - Advice for aspiring authors

Links:

People: Andrew Huberman — https://hubermanlab.com/about David Goggins — https://davidgoggins.com Eric Jorgenson — https://www.ericjorgenson.com Mary Karr — https://english.utexas.edu/people/mary-karr Paul Millerd — https://www.pathlesspath.com Sarma Melngailis — https://thegirlandtheduck.com Tim Ferriss — https://tim.blog

Podcasts: Huberman Lab — https://hubermanlab.com The Tim Ferriss Show — https://tim.blog/podcast

Companies: Scribe — https://scribemedia.com

Websites / Tools / Platforms: Scrivener — https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener/overview The Girl and the Duck (Sarma’s memoir site) — https://thegirlandtheduck.com

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We discuss:

What the Netflix docuseries got wrong—and how she’s correcting it.

The emotional and creative process of writing a 200,000-word memoir over eight years.

How storytelling, honesty, and empathy can help others escape manipulative relationships.

Quotes from Sam:

“I was in a cult of one.”

“People very often don't understand how this happens to someone who’s intelligent, who went to a good school, and started a business. But it does happen.”

“I started writing immediately after I got out of jail.”

“I had no editorial control... They basically changed the reality of what happened.” (on the Bad Vegan docuseries)

“I didn’t want anybody telling me what I can and can’t put in there... I wanted to have control over my story.”

“The book is long because I needed the reader to go through the psychological experience with me.”

“I have all my receipts. I included actual journal entries, G-chats, texts, and emails.”

“The writing was therapeutic, but also grueling. Sometimes I felt like I was crawling up the wall and slithering out of my skin.”

“I want the story to be useful. That’s what I’ve wanted all along.”

“People tell me, ‘I don’t read books anymore, but I read yours.’ That feels amazing.”

“Even if you're never going to publish it, writing about what happened to you can bring real relief.”

“I turned down a deal with a major studio because I didn’t want to give up control of my story again.”

“It wasn’t about power—it was about protecting the integrity of the story.”

“Someone told me they left a toxic relationship because of reading my book. That alone makes it all worth it.”

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:14) - The magic of code

(00:05:30) - The wonder of early computing

(00:11:13) - The evolution of computing: From analog to digital

(00:18:45) - The personal computer revolution

(00:32:36) - The future of computing: Beyond silicon

(00:36:59) - The importance of computing history

(00:40:53) - AI and human uniqueness

(00:50:46) - The future of AI and computing interfaces

(01:02:13) - The intersection of playfulness and utility in computing

(01:11:17) - Conclusion and final thoughts

Links:

Books: God & Golem, Inc. — https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262730065/god--golem-inc

In the Beginning... Was the Command Line — https://www.harpercollins.com/products/in-the-beginning-was-the-command-line-neal-stephenson

I, Robot — https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/180504/i-robot-by-isaac-asimov

The Half-Life of Facts — https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310285/the-half-life-of-facts-by-sam-arbesman

The Magic of Code — https://themagicofcode.com

Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet — https://www.harpercollins.com/products/tubes-andrew-blum

People:

Eric Jorgenson — https://www.ericjorgenson.com

Sam Arbesman — https://arbesman.net

Podcasts:

The Orthogonal Bet — https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-orthogonal-bet/id1682641800

Companies:

Lux Capital — https://www.luxcapital.com tldraw — https://www.tldraw.com

Websites / Tools / Platforms:

Arbesman.net — https://arbesman.net

Internet Archive Spacewar Emulation — https://archive.org/details/spacewar_202301

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We discuss:

Why software can be seen as ACTUAL MAGIC

The combination of history and science fiction for more accurate prediction

The phases of computing technology, and what might be next after silicon

The creative opportunities for the future of software

Quotes from Sam:

“Software is absolutely magic. It's wizardry. It's sorcery. Nobody gets it.”

“We actually can use text and code to affect the world around us.”

“Computing should almost be this humanistic liberal art—it should connect to language and philosophy and art.”

“Code is not a substance, but it operates in the world.”

“Computers are weird everything machines.”

“We’re shielded from the vast complexity of computing—until something goes wrong.”

“People used to build computers in their garages. Now we can’t even open them.”

“Unix is like the Epic of Gilgamesh of computing—it’s been around for decades and it’s still foundational.”

“AI is powerful, but it’s part of a much longer conversation around tools for thought.”

“Biology is a wildly different computer than anything we would ever use to compute with.”

“Science fiction doesn’t always predict well, but it gives us worlds we can aim toward.”

“I want more weird, playful experimentation in computing—something beyond the chat interface.”

“Computing history is so young that many of the pioneers are still around to email.”

“Ultimately, all these tools were developed for people. They’re meant to be in service of humans.”

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:19) - Entering the VC space

(00:08:38) - Pilot-fund theories

(00:12:50) - Risk tracking

(00:19:56) - Finding LP alignment

(00:22:39) - Arkady’s fund thesis

(00:47:12) - Creating the index of solutions to problems

(00:57:18) - The TAM for VC in 2025

(01:00:29) - How founders can increase the odds of being funded by Arkady

(01:03:36) - False signals in VC

Links:

Arkady on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arkady-kulik/

Arkady on X - https://x.com/arkady_kulik

Rpv.global - https://rpv.global/

To support the costs of producing this podcast: 

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We discuss:

How speaking the language of scientists helps Arkady build real trust with founders.

The AI tournament model he uses to identify 300 hidden human needs.

Focusing on problems first, then funding an index of possible solutions.

What he looks for in both founders and LPs.

Why honesty beats hype every time.

Why DPI is the only VC metric that actually matters.

Quotes from David:

“You don’t prove your worth as a VC until you return capital to your LPs. DPI is the only metric that matters.”

“The VC game is full of false positives—in evaluating companies and in how LPs evaluate VCs.”

“The best thing an investor can do is give a quick yes; the next best is a quick no. Lingering maybes are the worst.”

“Our technical unlock was agentic AI—it lets us evaluate hundreds of emerging needs for humanity in days, not years.”

“We want to be the first check because what matters most is building deep trust with the founder, not just valuation.”

“If you sold LPs on a strategy and you quietly abandon it, that’s a breach of trust—it's like cheating in a marriage.”

“A lot of people go into VC for ego or fast money. They won’t survive. This is a long, emotionally volatile game.”

“Stop wasting your life and start making a difference. If you’re a founder, build what only you can build.”

“There’s nothing wrong with saying no—it’s how you say it that matters.”

“The founder's mistake is assuming your investors will make money just because you do.”

“Great founders don't oversell—they're clear, calm, and self-aware.”

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start. 

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:52) - The Founder's book project

(00:04:06) - Effort and building relationships

(00:11:20) - The value of self-publishing

(00:24:00) - Bootstrapping a HoldCo

(00:46:05) - Finding natural fit in business

(00:47:48) - The role of trust in business

(00:49:07) - AI and changing perspectives

(00:50:26) - Daily use of AI tools

(00:55:49) - The value of deep research

(00:57:53) - The future of AI in business

(01:16:35) - Avoiding addictive apps

(01:18:27) - Collecting and using maxims

(01:20:45) - The power of lists

(01:24:40) - Collapsing organizational gaps

(01:28:05) - The role of AI in reducing friction

(01:29:59) - Closing remarks and recommendations

Links:

Andrew Wilkinson — https://twitter.com/awilkinsonDavid Senra — https://twitter.com/founderspodcastEric Jorgenson — https://twitter.com/ericjorgensonMitchell Baldridge — https://twitter.com/baldridgecpaNick Huber — https://twitter.com/sweatystartup

Eric Jorgenson — https://ejorgenson.com

Founders Podcast — https://www.founderspodcast.com

Better Bookkeeping — https://www.betterbookkeeping.comRE Cost Seg — https://www.recostseg.comScribe — https://scribemedia.com

To support the costs of producing this podcast: 

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We discuss:

How extreme effort and agency created the opportunity to publish the Founders' book.

The economics, longevity, and cultural value of self-published books.

Bootstrapping and scaling a HoldCo with multiple service businesses.

Practical uses of AI for research, productivity, and creative leverage.

The importance of doing the work for its own sake and loving the process.

Quotes from David:

“You don’t handle the stress—you like it. Or else you wouldn’t be doing this.”

“If you want the ups, you have to endure the downs. That’s just a fact.”

“This is the best version of my life, whether it’s 300 people at a club or 3,000 in a theater.”

“Most people try to keep things even—no extreme highs or lows. But all the exciting shit is in the variance.”

“If you have something else you’d rather be doing, then you should go do that.”

“Books are so valuable because of how long they take to consume.”

“Effort is universal. Doesn’t matter if it’s a garden or a podcast—people respect work.”

“AI is going to wipe out the middle. If you’re average, you’re gone.”

“Sage remembers things I don’t—and that’s priceless.”

“Don’t rush it. Make something great. A good book can sell for 50 years.”

Quotes from Mitchell:

“I get frustrated at how long this takes—but I want to build something meaningful.”

“Turn everything into a car wash. Put the customer into neutral and pull them through.”

“The tax code is getting more complex, but the systems are getting better.”

“AI is going to destroy everything below the 95th percentile.”

“I’m bootstrapping a holdco—and it takes time.”

“Send me a customer, I’ll give you $1,000. Send me 1,000 and I’ll mortgage my house for you.”

“I don’t want 25 meetings a month—I want results.”

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:45) - Who are your heroes?

(00:05:16) - What is something you’ve had to teach yourself that’s become a core part of your identity?

(00:07:34) - Taking a sabbatical post-exit

(00:09:30) - Going back into entrepreneurship

(00:12:52) - How to kill two-factor auth

(00:14:34) - When to split a company into two companies

(00:18:04) - Who is the customer of iDeem?

(00:22:37) - Verified Credentials

(00:28:31) - Fighting fraud with technology

(00:30:14) - The story of eyeVerify

(00:49:09) - The new technology trends pushing iDeem

(00:52:01) - The build process of a global start-up from Middle-America

Links:

Ideem - https://www.useideem.com/

Toby on X - https://x.com/TobiasRush

Toby on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobiasrush/

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We discuss:

Why tying your identity to your company can be both a strength and a liability

The critical decision to shut down a beautiful but unused blockchain product—and return investor money

How trusted digital IDs could change how we prove who we are—from checking out online to entering a secure facility

Why simply having a trusted device could be a stronger way to log in and why invisible two-factor might be the future

What it’s like to run a global fintech startup from Kansas City and the cultural learnings that come with it

Quotes from Toby:

“When the company is dying, that doesn’t mean I’m dying. And when it’s thriving, that doesn’t mean I’m a good person.”

“You should absolutely take a window of time when one chapter ends—just having time to yourself is all the justification you need.”

“Two-factor authentication is alive and well—it’s just invisible now.”

“We reduce friction for the user, fraud for the merchant, and cost for everyone.”

“If you’re serving two totally different customers with one product, you probably have two companies.”

“The magic moment is at checkout—remove friction there and everything gets better.”

“Passwords are terrible. If I can just look at my phone and log in, that’s a win.”

“You need friends who can sing your soul’s song back to you when you’ve lost the melody.”

“From almost out of money to a $100 million term sheet in five weeks—that’s the startup rollercoaster.”

“Authenticity, credibility, and trust are incalculable in value.”

“If the thesis is right but the timing is off, you can build something beautiful that no one uses.”

“Stop with the techno-babble. We won’t call them NFTs—we’ll just call them useful.”

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start. 

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro  

(00:00:45) - Introducing Nat Eliason  

(00:01:27) - Nat's Diverse Career and Writing Journey  

(00:01:47) - The Transition from Nonfiction to Fiction  

(00:02:13) - The Seven Act Structure and Writing Process  

(00:02:44) - Publishing with Scribe and Launching Husk  

(00:03:24) - The Rewards and Challenges of Writing  

(00:04:29) - Building an Audience and Marketing Strategies  

(00:06:54) - Balancing Writing with Other Ventures  

(00:09:09) - The Reality of a Writing Career  

(00:10:49) - The Importance of Consistency and Commitment  

(00:22:37) - Navigating Traditional and Self-Publishing  

(00:23:05) - The Journey to Becoming an Author  

(00:40:56) - Exploring the Shift from Nonfiction to Fiction  

(00:41:40) - The Joy of Storytelling in Fiction  

(00:44:00) - Challenges and Rewards of Writing Fiction  

(00:47:44) - Outlining and Structuring Fictional Works  

(00:57:38) - Marketing and Selling Self-Published Books  

(01:10:38) - The Future of an Author's Career  

(01:18:18) - Conclusion and Recommendations  

Links:

Nat on X

Nat’s Website

Crypto Confidential

Husk

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Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start. 

Quotes from Nat:

“Writing is the one thing I love doing enough to commit to for the next 30 years.”

“Traditional publishing taught me how to make a really good book, but I wouldn’t do it again.”

“Holding your book for the first time—and shipping it yourself to your first readers—is pure magic.”

“The best marketing for your book is writing the next one—that’s the fiction game.”

“I used to chase whatever was interesting… now I’m building something I want to last 30 years.”

“Fiction lets me explore big ideas without pretending to be an expert.”

“The self-pub stigma is fading… especially when the book looks and reads like a trad pub hit.”

“Characters start doing things I didn’t plan—then I realize, oh, that’s why they’re here.”

“There’s no product in the world like a book—you can sell the same file for 50 years.”

“My dream is to have a warehouse full of books I wrote. That’s the romantic version of success.”

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:30) - What’s the most important thing you’ve ever learned?

(00:07:23) - Learning to Learn

(00:11:20) - How learning changes as you age

(00:18:51) - How do you think about your circle of competence?

(00:22:21) - The future of book publishing and how authors adapt

(00:35:29) - AI disruption in book publishing

(00:47:56) - Jim’s inaugural book: Two Thoughts

(00:56:46) - LLMs for authors, and UBI

Links:

Jim on X

Infinite Loops Podcast

Infinite Books

O’Shaughnessy Ventures

Margins: Book Tracker

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Here’s what we explored in the episode:

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start.

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:05:25) - Studying both Medieval History and Engineering

(00:09:48) - Founding Speculative Technologies

(00:11:25) - Defining “Useful” in Science and Technology

(00:13:46) - Building the roadmap of discoveries to unlock futuristic tech

(00:17:24) - The need for new institutions

(00:25:22) - Why focus on material science and manufacturing technologies

(00:46:57) -  The day-to-day work and impact of Speculative Technologies

Links:

Speculative Technologies

Ben on X

Ben’s website

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Here’s what we explored in the episode:

If you’re looking for non-profit causes for your philanthropic donations, SpecTech may be among the highest-leverage ways to advance human civilization through donations. 

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start.

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:03:13) - Catching up

(00:13:14) - Making Earth (even more) Habitable by Controlling Weather

(00:26:54) - Doug Burgum: Next Secretary of the Dept. of the Interior

(00:31:30) - Building Rainmaker

(00:44:19) - Are we short on clean water in America today?

(00:50:37) - Drones, precipitation, cloud seeding, and the future

Links:

Rainmaker

Augustus on X

Augustus’ Thread on Doug Burgum

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Here’s what we explored in the episode:

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start.

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:04:24) - Watching the moon landing

(00:07:32) - Klaus’ career

(00:10:08) - Why Klaus wrote Leading To Thrive

(00:15:13) - Energy management, not time management

(00:19:37) - How do you implement these tactics in business?

(00:23:46) - Spiritual energy

(00:37:36) - Managing energy for life, work, and family & business

(00:54:52) - Instilling purpose as a leader

(01:04:59) - How do you approach balancing stakeholders?

(01:07:50) - What do you look for when building a team?

(01:12:01) - Closing advice

Links:

Leading to Thrive by Klaus Kleinfeld

Klaus on LinkedIn

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Here’s what we explored in the episode:

Important Quotes from the podcast on Business and Entrepreneurship

There is no skill called “business.” Avoid business magazines and business classes. - Naval Ravikant

You have to work up to the point where you can own equity in a business. You could own equity as a small shareholder where you bought stock. You could also own it as an owner where you started the company. Ownership is really important.  

Everybody who really makes money at some point owns a piece of a product, a business, or some IP. That can be through stock options if you work at a tech company. That’s a fine way to start.