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Following Clare’s podcast on Tuesday about therapy and my subsequent post, some questions have come up about access to help for people in distress; I’d be grateful for any thoughts.
Obviously, a person who is ignorant about nonduality (as I was) cannot discern whether or not the therapist they approach has this understanding.
However, for a prospective or current client who knows about nonduality, such as the podcast questioner, is it better for them to forego the help of someone who doesn’t come from this understanding? They might be likely to, but are we suggesting that any therapist without this understanding is to be avoided?
Are there currently enough therapists working from this understanding to meet the need out there? It seems not, so then what?
Does Life itself know what we’re ready for (including coming across this conversation) and, if so, might what shows up be exactly right, nondual or not?
Thanks to anyone who responds.
You often use the metaphor mountain - no mountain - mountain. And you also encourage us to stay with the discomfort, to notice it, observe it, and see what's believed and what's actually true in those moments. A peer in your community shared with me that staying with the discomfort is "no mountain" - can you speak to that? I'm not seeing what she's seeing yet.
Is crying just part of selfing or an indication of or reaction to selfing. If we speak about something or hear something or see something and tears arise .. is this a sign of somehting healing and being let go of or a sign that we are selfing and to 'stop it'. I have often wondered what the bodies mechanism of producing tears serves .. tears can come in times of sadness or joy and maybe its all just a way of the system regulating itself and to 'get us back into body connection and presence'
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.
What do you think, does our language express or create the “I?”
The rules of our language identify a subject and a verb. For example, an I and something that is happening.
“I am doing this.”
Yet in this conversation it is seen that awareness is aware of the doing happening — I am not doing this. I am not the doer and there is no I.)
Does the world look this way in language because this is how we think or do we think this way because of our language?
It may ultimately be a chicken and an egg thing, or just a case of co-arising.
But I wonder are there cultures/languages with sentences that developed without a subject?
It feels like there is an intuitive sense of an I, but babies don’t seem to be born with it. Helen Keller, I’ve read, had no sense of an I or a self until she learned language. Or until language was learned by that localized body/mind system.
I don’t know the attribution, but I’ve recently heard “The I in I am happy is the same as the it in it is raining.”
How much does language shape our thinking? Or does our thinking shape our language?
Something became clearer this morning when I awoke. It was that there are no "them" that condition us. I used to think that my parents did most of my early conditioning but of course they didn't. This body/mind does/creates the conditions - yes, based on its environment, but the actual "data" it absorbs is its own. This was a Wow.
I thought that if they had conditioned me then the same would be true for my children and I had felt guilty. But just as I had no control over my parenting, I/they had no control over what was accepted as true.
Your thoughts would be great
You are truly my inspiration! Thank you! I already purchased your new book as soon as it came up on Amazon. Thank you!
Yesterday, after attending my 14 year old son's tournament, where they won the whole thing, I was devastatingly down. This is where I wish I had a friend I could call at any time to just listen, and accept that I am low, and I would like that person to understand the way I believe about "thought", and "truth".
I listen to your podcasts over and over, and I want to be able to have a person to call when I go low like this and not try to "fix" me. I have never been able to acknowledge my true feelings for what they are and if I talk to a male friend, he tries to fix me,.and I have no one in the female area I am close enough to divulge my inner most feelings, without being classified as "depressed ", etc.
Also, here is what I believe is needed with some guidelines. We need to be able to call a friend or significant other, when we are feeling low, or down, just to chat. I tried calling a buddy; all he says is. "I understand"! His understanding has zero to do with yours truly, and what difference does it make? This wasn't me talking and telling him why I was down.
I am asking you cause i dont know who to turn to with this ... I am bedridden .. i feel so weak, depressed, and just have zero motivation and energy to do anything.. everything seems so boring and exhausting... But i am suffering in bed cause i want to be full of energy, have zest for life and have joy .. i feel depressed, i cant focus on anything other then movies or funny youtube videos.. how can one have more energy or feel energized, happy, motivated? I feel so pessimistic that i will never be able to get out of my sufferings. Is there a way? Can you help with getting out of weakness, depression, lethargy, helplessness, pessimism, hopelessness? I feel like i totally left myself, and i am totally submitted to negativity, pessimism and weakness.
Hope you help
I have a pattern, which plays out with increasing regularity, where I discover a course/workshop/training that I am interested in, where the outcome would be that I could teach/lead/facilitate others. I sign up, and then either immediately, or soon after, think I have made the wrong decision and I usually cancel it or just don’t do it. I have a veritable graveyard of such unopened/unfinished projects.
They are all, without exception, things that I thought were heart-led, that I really resonate with, and which I feel would be dreams coming true if I were lucky enough to do them in reality.
I am beginning to see that they are perhaps yet another addiction, an escape from reality, a way of thinking that ‘when I’m doing that, then I will be OK’.
I discovered non-duality teachings at least twenty years ago, and after many years previous to that of personal/spiritual development.
If, after all that time - through reading, allowing, absorbing, becoming more aware, practicing witnessing and being present - I still haven’t ‘got’ it, if my knowing is only intellectual and my system continues to play out the old patterns, despite my awareness of them, how on earth will I ever be free to love what I’m doing, whether that is a ‘boring office job’ or some ‘amazing world-changing work’.
I’m as tired of trying to ‘get it’ through exploring non-duality teachings as I am of the suffering resulting from repeating (conscious or unconscious) patterns.
If you could address how I step out of this paralysis I would be so grateful, thank you.
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