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In this episode of Talking Pools, Lee and Shane discuss the significance of expertise in the pool service industry, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning and training. They explore the growth of training opportunities available to professionals, the pros and cons of product-specific training, and the value of non-biased training. The conversation highlights the necessity of choosing the right products for business success and the role of ongoing education in engaging staff and enhancing service quality.
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The Importance of Professionalism in Pool Services
05:00
The Growth of Training Opportunities in the Industry
08:02
Navigating Product-Specific Training vs. General Knowledge
10:21
The Value of Continuous Learning and Adaptation
14:02
Building Relationships with Suppliers and Product Choices
16:37
Best Practices for Bulk Chemical Management
18:35
Engaging Staff Through Learning and Development
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In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, host Rudy interviews Maddy Van Diver from Pool Butler, discussing the importance of mentorship in the pool industry. They explore effective teaching methods for CPO classes, the significance of quality control in technician training, and the impact of advanced water treatment technologies. The conversation also delves into the nuances of pool chemistry and the role of communication in customer service. Van shares personal insights and stories that highlight the value of continuous learning and community support in the industry.
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00:00
Introduction to the Podcast and Guests
02:47
Mentorship in the Pool Industry
05:06
Teaching and Engaging in CPO Classes
08:14
Quality Control and Technician Training
10:55
Daily Operations and Personal Insights
14:00
Advanced Water Treatment Technologies
16:48
Understanding Pool Chemistry
19:19
Mentorship and Industry Growth
22:04
Personal Stories and Lessons Learned
24:55
The Importance of Communication in Pool Care
27:58
Final Thoughts on Mentorship and Industry Future
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This episode of the Talking Pools podcast reflects on the significance of September 11th, honoring the lives lost and the heroes who emerged on that day. It transitions into a detailed exploration of the engineering behind the 9-11 Memorial Pools, highlighting their design, operation, and the advanced technologies that maintain them as a symbol of remembrance.
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00:00
A Day of Remembrance
04:29
The Engineering of Memorial Pools
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In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, Steve Sherwood discusses various topics related to the pool service industry with Pat of the California Pool Association, including the differences between W2 and 1099 employment structures, the importance of having the right insurance coverage, and the challenges of hiring and managing employees. Wayne Ivusich then takes the conversation into water chemistry testing, explicitly focusing on Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) and calibration methods for testing equipment. Wayne emphasizes the importance of contacting manufacturers for clarification on testing procedures and the significance of maintaining accurate testing standards.
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00:00
Introduction and Overview of the Episode
03:07
Understanding W2 vs 1099 Employment Structures
08:06
Insurance Policies for Pool Service Companies
12:49
Hiring and Managing Employees in the Pool Industry
17:50
TDS and Water Testing in Pools
27:53
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
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In this episode of Talking Pools, hosts Andrea and Paulette discuss various aspects of pool maintenance, focusing on the importance of taking time off, the misconceptions surrounding cyanuric acid, and the myth of chlorine lock. They emphasize the need for proper chemical balance in pools and the significance of charging for services rendered. The conversation also touches on personal anecdotes and experiences in the pool service industry, providing insights into the challenges and realities faced by pool professionals.
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00:00
Introduction and Personal Updates
09:59
The Importance of Time Off in Pool Service
16:20
Understanding Cyanuric Acid and Its Misconceptions
29:03
Chlorine Lock: Myths and Realities
44:07
The Impact of Cyanuric Acid on Water Chemistry
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In this episode, Shane and Lee discuss the transition into the spring pool season, the impact of weather on pool maintenance, and the increasing presence of AI in the pool service industry. They emphasize the importance of human connection in business, especially in a field where personal relationships can significantly influence customer loyalty. The conversation highlights the need for pool service professionals to adapt to technological advancements while maintaining a personal touch with their clients.
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Spring Awakening: The Start of Pool Season
11:03
Navigating the AI Landscape in Pool Maintenance
22:30
Building Connections: The Human Element in Pool Services
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In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, Rudy interviews Shannon Wilson, a top mentor in the pool care industry. They discuss the importance of mentorship, safety, and training in pool management, as well as the role of enzymes in maintaining pool clarity. Shannon shares insights on accountability, learning from mistakes, and the significance of chemical knowledge in pool care. The conversation highlights the challenges of leadership and the impact of mentorship on professional development, concluding with valuable lessons and best practices for aspiring pool professionals.
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00:00
Introduction to Mentorship in the Pool Industry
02:27
The Role of Enzymes in Pool Maintenance
05:24
Safety and Training in Pool Management
08:23
Understanding Cyanuric Acid and Its Impact
11:21
The Importance of Consistency in Mentorship
14:11
Learning Through Failure and Experience
17:04
Chemical Safety and Handling in Pool Care
20:16
Innovations in Pool Chemistry and Maintenance
25:36
Reflecting on Early Industry Experiences
27:30
Learning from Mistakes and Accountability
30:41
Difficult Conversations and Leadership Challenges
33:22
Mentoring and Employee Development
37:52
Leadership Styles and Personal Growth
42:19
Teaching Moments and Light Bulb Moments
45:53
Lessons Learned from Pool Management
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In this episode of the Talking Pools podcast, Wayne and Natalie Hood discuss the Grit Game, a rising player in the pool industry. Natalie shares her journey with the Grit Game, emphasizing their commitment to education, collaboration, and support within the industry. They explore the meaning behind the name 'Grit', the importance of manufacturer representation, and the growth trajectory of the Grit Game. The conversation also highlights upcoming events, resources for industry professionals, and the launch of CPO classes, showcasing the Grit Game's dedication to elevating industry standards and knowledge.
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00:00
Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:22
The Grit Game Overview
03:52
Education and Certification Initiatives
05:54
The Meaning Behind 'Grit' in The Grit Game
07:53
Representation and Manufacturer Partnerships
09:55
Growth and Future of The Grit Game
15:04
What Sets The Grit Game Apart
19:38
Industry Collaboration and Support
25:23
Upcoming Events and Resources
29:52
CPO Classes and Educational Initiatives
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Sarah (aka Sarah the Pool Girl) drops some big news—she and her husband Andrew are expecting a baby in February! The conversation takes a wild ride from pregnancy excitement to pool safety, splash pad water systems, childhood hamster revenge plots, and why puddle jumpers might not be the best option for teaching kids to swim. This episode is equal parts heartfelt, hilarious, and educational, blending mom-to-be moments with pro pool service insights.
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This episode is pure Sarah—chaotic energy, mom-to-be vibes, real talk about water safety, and pool pro wisdom all rolled into one. Stick around for laughs, learning, and a glimpse of the pool girl life as it shifts into mom life.
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The show kicks off with a bit of unexpected humor as Andrea’s scheduled guest ghosts her—leaving her to set the tone and carry the intro solo. The surprise absence creates a light but awkward opening that transitions smoothly into Rudy stepping in with a solid educational segment. He dives into Total Dissolved Solids (TDS), breaking down what they are, why they matter for pool water balance, and how pool pros should monitor and manage them to keep their clients’ pools healthy and trouble-free.
From there, the conversation takes a turn back in time as the team revisits a discussion Andrea led last year about the chlorine leak at Great Wolf Lodge. They revisit the incident with fresh perspective, discussing what happened, what could have been done differently, and the larger implications for safety protocols in aquatic facilities. The reflection ties together lessons learned from both chemical management and emergency preparedness, reminding listeners of the importance of vigilance, education, and continuous improvement in the pool industry.
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From the publisher's feed
If you’ve ever stared at a test kit like it personally insulted your family… welcome home.
Talking Pools Podcast is the pool industry’s “pull up a chair” show—part shop…
Here’s the hook: it’s not theory-first. It’s experience-first—a roster of seasoned pros (with 250+ years of combined “been there, fixed that” wisdom) turning complicated problems into practical moves you can use the same day. And it’s not one voice, one vibe, one corner of the industry: it’s a network of shows designed to reflect how diverse this work really is—different regions, different specialties, different personalities.
Also worth saying out loud: women aren’t “special guests” here—they’re on the mic as hosts, from the beginning, with an intentionally balanced roster. That matters, because the best ideas in this industry don’t come from one lane—they come from the whole road.
If you want a podcast that can make you laugh and make you better at what you do—without pretending the job is easier than it is—Talking Pools is the one you queue up before the first stop, and keep on when the day starts getting weird.

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