It's been a minute since the last episode, you could say we had an OFF SEASON to enjoy this American holiday but really we just had nothing to talk about til HSOG put silly tires on her gravel bike and the With Pace team uploaded their Big Sugar episode.

Yes, you read correctly, our very own Holy Spirit of Gravel meme page admin was featured on what Forbes, CNN, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times call "cycling's most Payson McElveen-coded podcast". She reflects on the experience of hanging with Payson and his team and talks quite a bit about being a crappy ebike handler. It was an awesome experience.

watch the race vlog here

watch the full interview here

listen here

Oh yeah, tech talk, she also rambles on and on and on about putting cyclocross tires no one wanted on her road bike as if it's paying her bills. Her cohost remarks on how his sad, indoor peloton trainer won't die. Wahoos, power meters and pedals all make an appearance.

They end up pivoting to F1 because even though it's boring as hell, there's some light drama...much like a gravel race but even more boring (I will die on that hill).

Also they talk about disgraced celebrities because why not.