The Art of Range Podcast

Allen Miller of Tower Rock Ranch in Mansfield, Washington was the 2023 NCBA Environmental Stewardship Award regional winner. His family has run cattle on the same Douglas County ground since 1883. Allen joins Tip to talk about blending the art and science of range management on a 15,000-acre operation reshaped by five major wildfires in just 14 years. Allen shares hard-earned lessons on rotational grazing, post-fire rest and deferment, the payoff of 125 miles of new fence, and how Sage Grouse Initiative water infrastructure and remote tank monitors have transformed cattle distribution across rocky, water-scarce country. The conversation closes with candid thoughts on riparian fencing, CRP's unintended consequences, the promise of virtual fence and GPS ear tags, and Allen's advice to the next generation of agency professionals: come in humbly, listen first, and learn alongside the ranchers you're trying to help.

Music by Lewis Roise. Support for The Art of Range comes from RanchBot and the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center.

Visit the episode page at artofrange.com for the transcript and links to resources mentioned in this interview.

Jim Strickland is managing partner at Blackbeard's Ranch in southwest Florida, co-founder of the Florida Conservation Group, and vice chair of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association Environmental Stewardship Award Program. Over a seventy-year career in cattle, Jim watched nearly 100,000 acres of leased pasture disappear to development around Sarasota, and in response he helped build a coalition of ranchers, scientists, and conservation groups that has now facilitated roughly 160,000 acres of easements and pushed the Florida legislature toward a $300 million appropriation for easement funding. In this conversation, Jim and Tip discuss the mechanics and politics of conservation easements, the emerging market for paying ranchers for ecosystem services like Florida Panther habitat and aquifer recharge, prescribed fire on pyrogenic Florida rangelands, and Jim's experience as reportedly the first rancher to deploy virtual fence at scale east of the Mississippi — now covering 7,000 acres. Florida's ranchers are only one-half of one percent of the state's population, but they steward the water, wildlife corridors, and working open space that 22 million Floridians depend on, and Jim makes a compelling case for why telling that story well may be the most important conservation work of all.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Go to https://artofrange.extension.wsu.edu/ for the transcript and links to resources mentioned in this episode.

Maryam Niamir-Fuller's career spans decades of work with pastoralist communities from all over the world. She is a special advisor to the Secretariat of the International Year of Rangelands and Pastoralists Global Alliance. Maryam shares how her journey began among the Dinka people of Southern Sudan and grew into a lifelong commitment to elevating the voices and improving the livelihoods of pastoral communities worldwide. From the economics of livestock as living wealth, to the global conversation around meat, land conversion, and unbalanced subsidies, this episode provides a good overview on the social and economic services provided by rangelands and people of rangelands.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission and the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Go to the episode page at artofrange.com for links to resources mentioned in this episode.

In this episode, host Tip Hudson speaks with Doug Poole, a third-generation dryland farmer in Eastern Washington's arid Columbia Basin, about his decade-long effort to reintegrate livestock into a cropping system that had largely abandoned them. Doug farms on just 8–10 inches of annual rainfall, and the conversation digs into how industrial row-crop agriculture — heavy tillage, anhydrous ammonia, and monoculture wheat — degraded soils that were once native rangeland, and why Doug believes biology and cattle are the fastest path to reversing that damage. He explains how he uses cattle to harvest diverse cover crop mixes, reduce input costs, and rebuild soil structure, while tackling the real-world barriers to crop-livestock integration: water infrastructure, cattle supply logistics, and cultural resistance among so-called "dirt farmers". Doug speaks candidly about the economics of the transition, the promise of virtual fence technology, and why he has no plans to stop.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission and the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/aor-180-doug-poole-integrating-grazing-cropping-systems-rangeland-soil-health for links to resources mentioned in this episode.

Storytelling, direct-to-consumer beef sales, animal behavior, grass taxonomy, beavers, water, and wolves. Glenn Elzinga has tried to tackle it all raising cattle in the Pahsimeroi Valley and nearby mountains of south-central Idaho. Alderspring is a 100% grass-fed and certified organic ranch that’s been raising cattle on wild rangelands for over 30 years. Glenn, Caryl, and their seven daughters use herding movements they call 'in-herding' to optimize grazing effects as part of a healthy ecosystem. Glenn maintains a colorful ranch blog where he tells many of these stories.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission and the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.extension.wsu.edu/episodes/aor-179-glenn-elzinga-alderspring-ranch-grassfed-beef-in-wild-open-spaces/ for links to resources mentioned in this episode.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Just when you thought you'd heard everything about virtual fence, another podcast episode comes along. But Dr. Flavie Audoin, University of Arizona Cooperative Extension rangeland specialist, may be one of the most importance "voices" to listen to on the strengths and weaknesses of virtual fence and animal geolocation technologies. She has been in the middle of much of the early vendor comparison work as well as experimental research on animal physiology considerations and environmental applications for remote animal location detection and control. Listen to this interview to learn about the mechanisms of virtual fence options, a comparison and contrast of features on offer, and current research on graziers can better manage wild, open spaces with a back-to-the-future approach to modern herding.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center, Vence (a subsidiary of Merck), and the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/aor-178-flavie-audoin-animal-geolocation-and-virtual-fence-technologies for the transcript of this interview and links to resources mentioned in this episode.

Pastoral mobility is crucial for both the sustainable management of rangelands and the economic viability of pastoralism. It is key to livestock productivity, because it enables herds to reach resources that are unevenly dispersed across space and are often short-lived in highly variable environments. Pastoralists specialize in guiding their herds through seasonal grazing of a succession of these resources, taking advantage of the often unpredictable availability of nutrient-rich pasture. In this IYRP mini-episode, Dr. Mark Moritz, an anthropologist who has worked with pastoralists in Africa for several decades, describes the importance of mobility and how this is tied to the importance of access to land and water. These pastoralists’ rights are in jeopardy in many parts of the world, including from terrorist groups like Boko Haram in Cameroon.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center and the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/iyrp-february-mark-moritz-pastoralist-mobility-land-water-security for links to resources mentioned in this interview.

Music by Lewis Roise.

"Archbold's mission is to build and share the scientific knowledge needed to protect the life, lands, and waters of the heart of Florida, and beyond." This quote from the Archbold Biological Station website describes well the impressive efforts of this large private research institute to integrate wildlife and ecosystem conservation efforts with ranch management. Ranches have also become increasingly important for water conservation. Listen to this interview to learn about innovative aquifer recharge and water quality programs paying ranchers for ecosystem services and coordinated by Archbold. Dr. Betsey Boughton has run Archbold's agroecology program for many years, and she is now the Director of Science for the station.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center and the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/aor-177-dr-betsey-boughton-ranch-relevant-ecological-research-archbold-biological-station for a transcript of the interview and links to resources mentioned in this episode.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Gene Lollis has been managing the Buck Island Ranch for both commercial cattle production and research objectives for over 30 years. In this interview, Gene covers carbon life cycle analysis and eddy covariance sensors, meat packer politics, endangered bird species, Florida feedlot rations, rotational grazing, and national security. Welcome to a day in the life of a rancher. Archbold Biological Station is one of the largest privately-funded and operated ecological research institutions in the United States. Since 1/5 of Florida's land is in ranches, they recognized decades ago the importance of doing research on working cattle ranches. Archbold leased the Buck Island Ranch from the MacArthur Foundation for many years before purchasing it in 2018. Today, the ranch hosts numerous environmental research projects run by Archbold, including a LTAR site, and raises ~3000 cow-calf pairs per year.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/aor-176-gene-lollis-buck-island-ranch-part-archbold-biological-station for a full transcript and links to resources mentioned in this episode.

The Art of Range Podcast is supported by the Idaho Rangeland Resources Commission; Vence, a subsidiary of Merck Animal Health; and the Western Extension Risk Management Education Center.

Music by Lewis Roise.

Why are rangelands and pastoralists vital to the culture, ecology, and economy of the world? Igshaan Samuels, a rangeland scientist in South Africa and co-chair of the IYRP Global Alliance, defines and describes these people and places. You will learn in this interview that pastoralists are the front-line custodians of over half of the world's land area! The International Year of Rangelands and Pastoralists (2026) aims to raise awareness of these lifeways, the oldest in human civilization.

Visit the episode page at https://artofrange.com/episodes/iyrp-january-what-are-rangelands-who-are-pastoralists-why-do-they-matter-igshaan-samuels to experience pastoralists caring for rangelands and to learn how to share these important people and places with the people you interact with every day.