As someone who married an elite athlete, it has always fascinated me how they get to enjoy that effortlessly successful mindset. Joining me today is Dr Haley Perlus, a sports psychologist and coach who uses pressure as a performance enhancer. We learn how even us 'normal people' can learn all these skills to do the same.

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