An episode that dives deep into the neurodivergent narrative!
Hereâs whatâs in store for todayâs episode:
* We kick off this episode by discussing Lena Dunham's EDS diagnosis, a condition frequently co-occurring with autism.
* The reason HBO's Girls resonates with us so deeply is simpleâitâs an autistic show created by an autistic mind.
* We start by discussing Lena Dunham's art school background and creative writing degreeâwriting is a special interest for many of us here at Autistica.
* Lena Dunham's character in Girls constantly faces rejection as a writer and exhibits classic traits of rejection-sensitive dysphoria.
* Additionally, her film Tiny Furniture highlights the challenges with transitions that autistic people often experience.
* We discuss her memoir, Not That Kind of Girl: A Young Woman Tells You What Sheâs Learned, exploring how its pages lend themselves to neurodivergent coding and how certain passages have been misinterpreted.
* After being canceled over the passage in her memoir, Lena Dunhamâs career trajectory began to declineâcoinciding with the time she started experiencing symptoms of chronic illness.
* At this point, what happened to Lena Dunham was essentially autistic burnoutâshe hit a wall, just as many of us do!
* Our hosts discuss how autistic people thrive when we have the freedom to do our own thing and maintain a high level of control over our work environments.
* When we canât control our environments, it leads to conditions like EDS and POTSâoften comorbid with neurodivergenceâbecause of the heightened stress we experience.
* In the show, which is loosely based on Dunhamâs own life, her character discusses sensitivities to clothing and struggles with transitions with her therapistâboth hallmark autistic traits.
* Lena Dunham has undoubtedly been misinterpretedâshe has expressed taboo ideas in her work because she doesnât naturally pick up on social cues, which is inherently autistic.
* The quirks Lena Dunham exhibits in certain episodes of Girls and in her personal life often come across as distinctly autistic-coded.
* Another main character in the show, Shoshanna, is actually referred to as canonically autistic in Girlsâand, well, we tend to stick together!
* We also discuss the part of Girls where Dunhamâs character attends the Iowa Writersâ Workshop and how these programs often trigger rejection-sensitive dysphoria and arenât designed to be neurodivergent-friendly.
* This leads to a tie-in with our Neurodivergent Narratives writing workshop program for our paid members of Autistica, which offers a PDA-affirming and neurodivergence-affirming approach to writing workshops.
* We talk about Lena Dunham's marriage to songwriting genius Jack Antonoff and how he exhibits neurodivergent coding in the songs he's written for his bands, Fun. and Bleachers.
* Finally, we discuss the autistic connection between Lena Dunham and Taylor Swift, and what happens when autistic people recognize and understand each other.
âWhen I tell people Iâm autistic, they say, âI donât see it.â Then I say, âwell, Iâm a Taurusâ, and they say, âthat makes sense.ââ - Matt
âA minute ago, we were talking about how exciting it is that she went to college, made a movie, went to South by Southwest, and got a film greenlit by HBO. Does this sound like an autistic thing that happens? Works 24 hours a day, wins every award, is a media darling, and then is fucking hated by everyone?â - Angela
âThis is a common thing among autistic people, because when youâre young and vital and stuff, you put a lot of energy out there and then, for some reason, we expect that weâre going to be able to maintain that level of energy throughout our lives. We cannot.â - Matt
âWe experience far more stress than neurotypical people, because we live in a world that constantly bombards us with sensory information, with data. We have to mask all the time. We have more stuff that stresses us out than neurotypicals do. So, we are more likely to have all of these things, but again, we donât know if itâs a 1:1 ratio that, just plain being autistic means itâs more common.â - Matt
Did you enjoy this episode? We delved into how autism intersects with various aspects of life, from Lena Dunham's neurodivergent-coded characters to the struggles of navigating rejection-sensitive dysphoria and burnout. Tune in as we explore the nuances of being neurodivergent in creative spaces and the connections between autistic individuals, like Lena Dunham and Taylor Swift. Let us know your thoughts in the comments, and use #AutisticCultureCatch to share your experiences!
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Show notes:
Aaron and Taylor:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Lena-Dunhamhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Antonoff
https://people.com/jack-antonoff-discusses-his-ocd-rituals-and-late-sister-8654926
https://www.threads.net/%40oakleyjohansen/post/C8VvoEfS-54?utm_source=chatgpt.comYouTubeLena Dunham: Short Biography, Net Worth & Career HighlightsOctober 20, 2017 â Complete biography: http://celebritynetworth.wiki/lena-dunham-net-worth/ American actress, director, producer, screenwriter and author Lena ...
Lena Dunham Reveals Her Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Diagnosis -
Lena Dunham on Body Image, Clothing, and Sensory Sensitivities -
Lena Dunham Discusses Chronic Illness and EDS in CNN Interview - https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/03/entertainment/lena-dunham-ehlers-danlos-trnd/index.html
Lena Dunhamâs Passion for Writing and Storytelling in HBOâs Girl- https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/315/oa_monograph/chapter/2319659
Lena Dunhamâs Blunt Communication Style and Public Controversy - https://medium.com/@isabellarosario/lena-dunhams-comments-on-chronic-illness-in-the-cut-draw-criticism-8c865d1ba3f9
Lena Dunham on Her OCD, Anxiety, and Mental Health Struggles - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Dunham
Lena Dunham on Routine, Structure, and Creativity in The New Yorker- https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/lena-dunhams-change-of-pace
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