In this deeply emotional and inspiring episode of Sober Is Dope, Pop Buchanan welcomes Lee Lybarger and his son Richard “Rick” Lybarger, known professionally as Wisdom Won, for a powerful father-and-son dialogue on recovery, forgiveness, and spiritual rebirth.

Lee, now more than ten years sober, reflects on his Navy background, his career in finance, and the long struggle with addiction that estranged him from his family for decades. With humility and remorse, he describes how he rebuilt his life through calisthenics, disciplined breathwork, and Hermetic meditation, discovering that true healing lies in consistent spiritual practice, not just abstinence.

Rick, a certified breathwork coach and spiritual teacher with Wisdom Won Coaching & Energy Healing, shares how he transformed his pain into compassion. Through forgiveness and empathy, he helped reconnect the family and guide his father toward peace. Together, they embody how sobriety can evolve into spirituality, and how love can close even the widest gaps of time and pain.

This conversation is about second chances, inner discipline, and the alchemy of forgiveness. It shows that healing is possible at any age and that redemption can ripple through generations.

Contacts

• Website(s): https://WisdomWon.com

  https://Empowered-Man.com

• Instagram: @wisdomwon