Philippe Schoonejans is project manager at ESA, and works on the communications module of Lunar Gateway. If all goes according to schedule, 2024 will be the year in which the first American woman will take her first steps on the lunar surface. We talk to him about the steps ESA will need to take to get her there - and what future European contributions might look like. Maybe the first European on the moon?

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