The Gray Divorce Podcast

High-conflict divorce can feel endless, emotionally exhausting, and financially devastating, especially later in life. 

In Episode 96, Andrew Hatherley welcomes Karen McMahon, high-conflict divorce strategist, to explore emotional regulation, post-traumatic growth, adult children, high-conflict personalities, and why healing—not just the legal settlement—is the true path to freedom after divorce.  

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Social media may seem harmless—but during divorce, it can quietly intensify conflict, damage relationships, and even impact legal outcomes. 

In Episode 94, Andrew explores the hidden dangers of social media during divorce, particularly for those navigating gray divorce and later-life transitions. From emotional escalation and online comparison to privacy risks and legal consequences, Andrew explains why thoughtful digital behavior matters more than ever during one of life’s most stressful experiences. 

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What if the key to a better divorce isn’t just hiring a lawyer—but building the right team from the start? 

In Episode 93, Andrew Hatherley sits down with Melissa Murphy Pavone, (CDFA) to discuss how a proactive, team-based approach can help you navigate divorce more efficiently—and avoid costly mistakes. 

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Social Security decisions can mean the difference between financial security and costly mistakes—especially after divorce. 

In Episode 92, Andrew Hatherley is joined by Regina Hess, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), CFP®, and founder of Forge Wealth Management, for a deep dive into how Social Security works in mid-to-late life divorce. 

From eligibility rules and common misconceptions to real-life scenarios and survivor benefits, this episode breaks down what you need to know to maximize your benefits—and avoid leaving money on the table.  

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How do global conflicts—like rising tensions with Iran—impact your investments, especially if you’re divorcing or nearing retirement? 

In Episode 91, Andrew Hatherley breaks down what major geopolitical events really mean for financial markets and, more importantly, for people navigating gray divorce or entering retirement. 

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Divorce can feel like climbing a mountain—exhausting, uncertain, and sometimes overwhelming. But what if the view at the top offers strength, clarity, and a new beginning? 

In Episode 90, Andrew Hatherley speaks with Oona Metz, therapist, writer, and author of Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women. Drawing on 15 years of experience helping women navigate divorce, Oona explains how the emotional journey unfolds—and how the hardest chapters can ultimately lead to personal growth and transformation. 

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What happens when gray divorce collides with a cancer diagnosis—and the response is laughter?

 
In Episode 88, Andrew Hatherley is joined by Greg Schwem, veteran stand-up comedian, corporate speaker, and author of Turning Gut Punches into Punchlines, for a candid, insightful, and often funny conversation about surviving—and growing—through life’s toughest disruptions. 

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What if divorce didn’t have to mean courtroom battles, skyrocketing legal bills, and emotional devastation? 

In Episode 88, Andrew Hatherley welcomes three members of the Collaborative Law Institute of Minnesota — family law attorney Janna Hefty, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst Michelle Leisen, and marriage and family therapist Brian Burns — for an in-depth conversation about collaborative divorce and why it may be a better alternative to litigation. 

With Divorce with Respect Week (March 1–8) bringing national attention to this approach, this episode explains how collaborative law works, who it’s for, and why education is the first step toward a better divorce.  

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What happens when a divorce settlement looks perfect on paper—but falls apart at the mortgage desk? 

In Episode 87, Andrew Hatherley welcomes back Tami Wollensak, Certified Divorce Lending Professional and mortgage industry veteran, to explore one of the most overlooked risks in gray divorce: real estate financing after settlement. 

From mortgage assumptions and refinancing timelines to income qualification and retirement strategies, this episode reveals why planning before you sign a settlement agreement can save you from costly surprises later.  

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Sex and intimacy don’t disappear with age, but they do change. Andrew Hatherley welcomes JenMG, intimacy coach and educator, for a candid conversation about sex, desire, and connection in midlife and beyond. 

From long-term marriages and sexless relationships to rediscovering pleasure after divorce, this episode explores how intimacy evolves with aging bodies, changing hormones, and deeper self-awareness, and how reclaiming it can transform life after gray divorce.  

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