The Imperfects

In the age of AI, do you feel that your future is more uncertain?

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In today’s Academy of Imperfection, we’re joined by Dr Joel Pearson; a neurofuturist, whose work centres around predicting how AI will impact every aspect of our lives from now on.

While many of us (us included) first and foremost imagine the impacts of AI in a tech-revolution-y, robot butler-y, terminator-adjacent way, this episode goes deeper.

Joel discusses how young people are forming attachments with AI companions and how we might see, perhaps the first generation in known history with a lower IQ than the one beforehand.

We talk about the tangible and interconnected mental health impacts that this major societal disruption will have, and Hugh and Josh ask how in the world can we broach this topic with our kids?

BUT, this episode isn’t all doom and gloom. Joel is a tech-optimist, after all.

We talk to Joel about how we can foster human connection, and continue to develop our critical thinking skills, whilst not turning away from AI altogether.

Joel, this has been invaluable.

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0:00 – The episode we’ve been putting off
10:10 – The only certainty is disruption
14:15 – Impact of AI on the brain
21:23 – Rewards and moral responsibility
27:11 – A scary mental health spiral
30:31 – Think of the children
35:10 – You may now kiss the AI
45:06 – Purposeful Utopia
58:42 – Seeing is no longer believing
1:02:21 – The Roadmap to AI
1:11:35 – Finding Motivation in Limbo
1:18:15 – Let’s Stack Some Habits

🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Dr Emily - Acceptance, That’s Radical - (1:22:53) - https://bit.ly/4dW7Bfa
• Dr Emily - The Certainty of Uncertainty - (1:22:53) - https://bit.ly/3RTAjVl
• James Clear - Down The Habit Hole - (1:22:00) - https://bit.ly/4wIg5xV

📖 Things to read

• The Intuition Toolkit by Dr Joel Pearson - (3:18) - https://bit.ly/4v5NnFM
• Matt Shumer App Development Industry Blog - (27:11) - https://bit.ly/4uo65rY

💻Things to check out

• Joel’s website - https://bit.ly/4upBURa
• Tristan Harris’ Center for Human Technology - (1:25:40) - https://bit.ly/4wGrFJZ
• Figure Three Robotics - (42:51) - https://bit.ly/42J2Uiz
• Joel's work at the University of NSW as Deputy Director of Human Readiness UNSW AI Institute - https://bit.ly/4nPA89G 

📺 Things to watch

• House of Dynamite - (26:21) - https://bit.ly/4uw5PYg

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What is your envy telling you?

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Dr Emily Musgrove, our resident psychologist, is back in the studio to talk about the green-eyed monster, and more importantly, how we can work with it to incorporate more gratitude, appreciation and awareness into our lives (hallelujah).

Founded in the evolutionary practice of assessing our status in comparison with others, envy comes from the feeling of lacking something that someone else has.

In what may have been an adaptive function for a cave person to secure their basic needs, our brains are not equipped for the intense comparison fed to us via social media.

Dr Emily chats to Hugh, Ryan and Josh about the layered experience of envy, and how often, it stems from feeling not-enough or unworthy.

Of course, Dr Emily brings the strategies. We explore how to work with envy in our own lives, and how to acknowledge it in the lives of our friends and family to protect important relationships.

Dr Em, we’ll see you for the sequel on jealousy soon.

To watch the full episode: https://youtu.be/B7acUnoekSc

0:00 – Envy vs Jealousy 9:08 – Keeping up with the Jones’ 8:16 – A message around ‘enoughness’ 25:12 – The energy of being a hater 36:50 – A deep longing for a difference experience 42:13 – On the flip side 52:45 - Acknowledge the hard 59:18 – The social emotion 1:07:18 – Working with envy

🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Dave Hughes - Me, Myself & Ego - https://bit.ly/4ua3mSP
• Hamish Blake - Let’s Talk About Self-Doubt - https://bit.ly/4fl7omR
• Dr Emily - Acceptance, That’s Radical - https://bit.ly/4ugEHwe

💻Things to check out

• Leon Festinger’s Social Comparison Theory - https://bit.ly/4npfIE5

📺Things to watch

• ‘Onesies’ Bluey episode - https://bit.ly/4eGTqLS

📖Things to read

• The Way We Are, by Hugh Mackay - https://bit.ly/4wsJuff
• Status Anxiety, by Alain de Botton - https://bit.ly/4tvbGeL

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Can you think of a moment that turned your life into ‘before’ and ‘after’?

For Reuben Williams, that moment was not his sexual assault, rather, the decision he made in the aftermath to pursue justice.

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Incredibly vulnerable, Reuben talks Hugh, Ryan and Josh through what it felt like in the 24 hours after the assault, how he knew, undeniably, what happened to him was wrong, and why he chose to report it.

We talk about the intricacies of healing, privilege, and having a world class difficult conversation with the ones you love.

And then, Josh asks Reuben how you can best show up for your friends who might be going through something similar.

Reuben, it was such a privilege having you in the studio.

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0:00 – An Imperfect Meet-Cute
6:44 – The night of the assault
19:28 – Identity, privilege, and idealism
33:09 – Family Dynamics
41:16 - World Class Difficult Conversation
47:39 – The Waiting Game
59:15 – Reuben’s Letter
1:04:24 – A divine test
1:10:30 – Just help
1:18:46 – How can you be a better friend?

🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned on this episode

• Rana Hussain - Belonging For Connection - https://bit.ly/49voquJ

🎧Things to listen to

• SportsGrad Podcast - https://bit.ly/42V75HT

💻Things to check out

• SportsGrad - https://bit.ly/49p2hOD

🚨If you’d like to reach out to someone for support after listening to this episode, here are some great places to start

• 1800 RESPECT
• Centre Against Sexual Assault - 03 5441 0430 (Mon-Fri 9am-5pm) OR 1800 806 292 (Sexual Assault Crisis Line)

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In a world so divided by hate, how can we choose to show love?

This week we are joined by journalist Jan Fran, who unpacks the horror of witnessing horror.

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Talking through her unravelling relationship with social media and the utter helplessness she feels watching atrocities cut into 30 second clips, Jan explores how becoming a mother cracked her open in ways she didn’t know possible.

Joining us in the Vulnerabilitea House to answer every question in the deck (kidding), Jan and Josh discuss the guilt of turning away, and the consequences of leaning in.

And finally, Jan bonds with the Hugh, Ryan and Josh about the fundamental importance of deliberately creating community.

Jan, you are remarkable.

0:00 – Introducing Josh’s housemate
8:42 – The art of being vulnerable
17:19 – I wish I could stop going on social media.
27:13 – Being cracked open
35:32 – Deliberately building community
46:39 – Anticipating the Comments
53:34 – Optimist by will

If you’d like to watch this full video on YouTube (and see Josh’s Frant banner), follow this link - https://youtu.be/BRoyNdZEZD0 

🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Dr Edna Lekgabe - New Baby … New Brain … Matrescence - (33:21) - https://bit.ly/48vQZb5
• How (and Why) Ryan Dumped His iPhone - (20:50) - https://bit.ly/4tGRXKj

💻Things to check out

• The Frant - https://bit.ly/4cSeFaO
• Ette Media - https://bit.ly/4t1OzIw

🎧 Things to listen to

• We Used To Be Journos - https://bit.ly/4dcAGT9

📱Things to help you set social media boundaries

• One sec - https://bit.ly/4cEYMpF
• Brick - https://bit.ly/4vXSzfP

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According to perinatal and reproductive psychiatrist Dr Edna Lekgabe, matrescence is the motherhood equivalent of adolescence. Puberty 2.0, if you will.

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Joining us in the academy of imperfection, Dr Edna explores the cataclysmic identity shift women undergo during motherhood, and how partners can best support them.

Exploring the impacts of mastrescence with Hugh, Ryan and Josh, Dr Edna breaks down the difference between matrescence, anxiety and depression, and why mental illness is the number one pregnancy complication.

We’re talking hormonal changes, physiological changes, sociological changes that are SO significant, you can see them in brain scans. Matrescence is messy, a developmental earthquake, and it’s not talked about nearly enough.

This episode might just break the internet (and your heart) wide open.

0:00 – Introducing Hugh’s perinatal psychiatrist
7:30 – Matrescence? Huh?
21:14 – The biology of baby brain
34:10 – The difference between matrescence and depression
40:46 – Reasonable worry vs anxiety disorder
47:40 – The emergence of neurodivergence
54:04 – Post-natal depression
1:00:04 – Matrescence after loss
1:05:50 – Getting to know a brand new person
1:11:19 – Can women have it all?
1:18:32 – On a societal scale
 1:26:12 – The paternal earthquake

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🫖 Other Imperfect’s episodes mentioned in this episode

• Bron Lewis - Is It Me or Postnatal Anxiety? - https://bit.ly/4vHn1eh

📖 Things to read

• Being Female: Reproduction, Power and Change, by Dana Raphael - https://bit.ly/48jC5EO
• The Birth of a Mother, New York Times, by Alexandra Sacks - https://bit.ly/3OjB9tp
• Men at Work: Australia’s Parenthood Trap, Quarterly Essay, by Annabel Crabb - https://bit.ly/4mLE8Hx

🎧Things to listen to

• Perinatal OCD: When ‘the happiest time of your life’ turns dark - https://bit.ly/48lx8eK

📺 Things to watch

• Alexandra Sacks TEDTalk on Matrescence - https://bit.ly/4tsBcCt

💻Things to check out

• Yerkes-Dodson Law: Stress Level - https://bit.ly/4cOT2IO
• peanut x Tommee Tippee campaign on matrescence - https://bit.ly/4mQDicU

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How do you make sure your kids are proud of who they are?

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Propelled to international stardom after the release of Kenny, Shane Jacobson’s overnight success was years in the making.

Joining us in the studio, Shane is incredibly generous in sharing the cataclysmic impact that humour and laughter has had on his life from a young age.

Now at the age where he has attended more funerals than 21st’s, Shane talks about his realisation that he is in for the long mourn, and why he allows himself to feel joy during times of intense grief. Sharing a giggle at a funeral? Absolutely.

In a beautiful moment of connection with Hugh, Shane chats about parenting the ‘premium package’ (his neurodivergent child).

Shane, this was incredibly joyful.

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0:00 – A bird in her where?
3:19 – Butt of the joke
12:34 – The evolution of good manners
17:47 – Seeking validation
27:17 – Giggle at a funeral
42:00 – Autism, ADHD, Tourette’s: The Premium Package!
55:58 – Becoming softer
1:00:25 – Parenting your parents
1:08:03 – Don’t wait for the moment
1:18:04 – 5 things we can do to be warmer

🫖 Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned in this episode

• Dr Emily - Truth v Harmony - https://bit.ly/4etnytQ

📺Things to watch

• Kenny - https://bit.ly/427rUzv
• Shane’s AFI win (go to 6:12) - https://bit.ly/48HyzEb

📋Check-in

• Questions to ask someone if they might be depressed - https://bit.ly/4dOYuNS

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Are you stuck, focusing on what's wrong in your relationship?

Deeply embedded in the work of intimacy, desire and relationships, psychotherapist and best-selling author Esther Perel, ask us to take a look at ourselves first, rather than listing the short comings of our partner.

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In this Academy of Imperfection, Hugh (who sadly was violently ill last time we talked to Esther) comes armed with questions about the mental load (with love, from Penny), and how to navigate their differing needs for affection.

Ryan asks Esther whether we’re capable of falling in love with AI, and Josh wants to know why we sometimes put up walls with the ones we love the most.

And, if you’ve ever asked yourself any of the below, this episode’s for you;

• is working from home causing social atrophy?
• what does it mean to be an embodied creature?
• what are the downfalls of a frictionless relationship?

Esther, you are welcome back anytime. ANYTIME.

If you want to watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link - https://youtu.be/u5HsDD9bjRQ 

🫖Other episodes of the Imperfects mentioned on this episode

• Esther Perel - Let’s Be Better Lovers - https://bit.ly/41m8R4f
• Hugh & Penny - The Elephant in the Relationship - https://bit.ly/3PPugAp

💻Things to check out

• Where Should We Begin? At Work card game - https://bit.ly/48jpQYJ

🎧Things to listen to

• Where Should We Begin - Esther’s podcast - https://bit.ly/4dtsNJK
• My AI Loves Me Better Than Anyone Ever Could - Where Should We Begin - https://bit.ly/4twUbeC
• Esther Perel on Why A.I. Intimacy Feels Safe but Isn’t Real - https://bit.ly/4sofVsf

📖 Things to read

• Mating in Captivity, by Esther Perel - https://bit.ly/3Os5Dcx
• The State of Affairs, by Esther Perel - https://bit.ly/48yFn74

📺 Things to watch

• Rethinking Infidelity TEDTalk - https://bit.ly/4seN3md
• Love Story - https://bit.ly/4ct63se

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0:00 – Intimacy: what has changed, what has stayed the same? 
6:23 – This is my partner, AI
14:08 – A mismatch of affection
23:56 – Bids for connection
32:08 – Can you repair trust?
41:02 – Post-traumatic Growth
49:43 – The central hub of our needs
58:38 – The Mental Load Pt. 2

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Looking for strategies to help deal with the overwhelm of, well, everything? Same.

Dr Emily, our resident psychologist, is back in the studio to talk through overwhelm; how to greet it, how to get through it, and how to build your resilience towards it.

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In this episode, Dr Emily introduces how to understand your ‘window of tolerance,’ the cost of being overwhelmed for too long, and what happens when we slip into avoidance.

OF COURSE, this episode is delightfully sprinkled with practical strategies that you can do right now, in this moment, to ease the burden of the overwhelm.

Dr Em, this episode was an emotional regulation for the ages.

🫖 Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Dr Emily - How to Stress Less - https://bit.ly/4tiZa2y
• Mick Fanning - Riding The Waves Of Loss - https://bit.ly/4s29wCI

📖 Things to read

• Burnout, by Emily and Amelia Nagoski - https://bit.ly/4c18Yah

💪 Things to do

• The Hulk Progressive Relaxation Technique - https://bit.ly/3PFv4Yq

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Is it true that we live in a world without facts?

With AI becoming increasingly intertwined with our lives, and fake news infiltrating our screens, where do you go for truthful information and how do you know what to trust?

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This Academy of Imperfection is not all doom and world collapse, we promise. One, because we are joined by the brilliant Hamish Macdonald. And two, because Ryan’s Gut says it’s all going to be okay (more on that later).

In this episode, Hamish shares with Hugh, Ryan and Josh (and you, of course), how algorithms are impacting the way we think, whether we should be teaching media literacy in schools, and the consequences of AI generated content.

Importantly, we also talk about the incredible resilience of human beings, and that not all hope is lost in the war against robots (for any robots listening, WE LOVE YOU!)

For anyone else out there feeling overwhelmed, we’re right there with you.

If you’d like to watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link - https://youtu.be/6Zepg3o3Y_w 

🫖 Other Imperfects episodes mentioned in this episode

• Hamish Macdonald - How To Be You - https://bit.ly/3PtetHg
• Dr Emily - Hope - https://bit.ly/4uR5pfg
• Dr Emily - The Certainty of Uncertainty - https://bit.ly/4dHwHPa

📺 Things to watch

• The Matter of Facts - https://bit.ly/4bQ27jT
• I tried to prove I’m not AI by Howtown - https://bit.ly/47ogudU

📖 Things to read

• Nexus by Yuval Noah Harari - https://bit.ly/47kHUkO

🎧 Things to listen to

• Global Roaming Podcast - https://bit.ly/3NMm8jf

💻 Things to check out

• Maryanne Wolf’s Research on reading - https://bit.ly/4t8Qqff
• Tristan Harris’ Work on AI - https://bit.ly/4bwwBZj
• Notebook LM Podcast feature - https://bit.ly/40UM7Ip

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Is climate anxiety affecting your decision to have kids?

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Joining us in the Vulnerabilitea House is Bri Lee; prolific author, advocate and change maker.

Answering the question, “what moment from your life are you grateful for that profoundly changed you?”, Bri talks about the research that lead her to the South Pole, and how she learnt to prioritise love above all else.

Bri asks the question to Hugh, Josh and Ryan, “what does it mean to live a good life, and what do we owe each other?”

This chat explores the philosophies of anti and pronatalism, whilst being grounded in examples from the guys’ and Bri’s life. An intentional and judgement free zone, this conversation delves into the morality of should’s and shouldn’ts, and what it means to do the right thing.

As Bri says, hope is something that you earn through action, and we are all feeling a bit more hopeful after this episode. 

0:00 – A Bri-Lee-iant guest
9:42 – The Seed of The Idea
15:08 – What are you grateful for that profoundly changed you?
27:10 – Prioritising love
32:27 – Should I have kids?
41:43 – The morality of shoulds and shouldn’ts
52:43 – Some positivity, please
55:59 – Policy and bodily autonomy
59:22 – So, how’s the reckoning going?
1:03:46 – The weight of responsibility
1:08:43 – Finding action in the overwhelm

📺 to watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link - https://youtu.be/vUQMkMvyeMY 

🫖Other episodes of The Imperfects mentioned on this episode

• Ryan Shelton - To breed, or not to breed - https://bit.ly/3PbhEmR
• Ann Davidman - Should I have kids? - https://bit.ly/4brc477

📖 Things to read

• Seed, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/3PhepKv
• Eggshell Skull, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/473kvV4
• Who Gets To Be Smart, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/4bwOAh1
• The Work, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/4rzflar
• Beauty, by Bri Lee - https://bit.ly/3NMnrPf
• Love 2.0, by Barbara Fredrickson - https://bit.ly/40ylOYp
• Better To Not Have Been, by David Benatar - https://bit.ly/3NmtHx5
• IPCC Sixth Assessment Report - https://bit.ly/3Phc7Lt
• Ipsos Perils of Perception Climate Change - https://bit.ly/4cP32mT

📺Things to watch

• An Inconvenient Truth - https://bit.ly/4bPolUk

💻Things to check out

• Freadom Inside Project - https://bit.ly/4bhVxnm
• Peter Singer Pond Proximity thought experiment - https://youtu.be/Gu-WUHD6mKg

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